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Title: Ex-immigration minister Jason Kenney �dictated� niqab ban at citizenship ceremony, court told
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2014-10-18 09:52:33
Canadian

[martin14]

$1:

that niqab does not fit into the mode of Canadian citizens.�

It doesn't.


Citizenship isn't a right, it's a privilege. Can't adhere to the rules,
don't become a citizen.

Period.

[andyt]

Kenney's reasons for the ban don't fly and can easily be overturned. But there is a perfectly valid reason: any time somebody takes an oath, they should have their face uncovered so we can see who is actually taking the oath. Seems to me that would pass constitutionality.

[raydan]

When I worked in a bank, nobody came in with his face covered.

[andyt]

How many Muslims did you turn away? wouldn't surprise me if banks made exceptions for niqabs because they don't want trouble. But they should stick to their guns.

but look at Alberta - they were fine not allowing the Hutterites to not have their pics taken, as soon as the Muslim women wanted to stay covered Alta changes the rules. When will be learn we can't appease anybody for rules that make sense. In BC sikhs can ride motorcycles or work at hardhat jobs just wearing their turbans. How stupid is that? Once we go down that road, don't be surprised if groups that are the boogeyman du jur also want exexmptions.

[raydan]

No niqabs around at that time... even now, I don't remember the last time I saw one... a hijab every once in a while though.

[andyt]

Lots (as in more than two) starting to crop up in Vancouver. Makes me want to puke every time.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

How many Muslims did you turn away? wouldn't surprise me if banks made exceptions for niqabs because they don't want trouble. But they should stick to their guns.

but look at Alberta - they were fine not allowing the Hutterites to not have their pics taken, as soon as the Muslim women wanted to stay covered Alta changes the rules. When will be learn we can't appease anybody for rules that make sense. In BC sikhs can ride motorcycles or work at hardhat jobs just wearing their turbans. How stupid is that? Once we go down that road, don't be surprised if groups that are the boogeyman du jur also want exexmptions.

I remember a few years ago a Sikh man claimed their was a smaller version of the turban for wearing under motorcycle helmets.

[CDN_PATRIOT]

martin14 martin14:

$1:

that niqab does not fit into the mode of Canadian citizens.�

It doesn't.


Citizenship isn't a right, it's a privilege. Can't adhere to the rules,
don't become a citizen.

Period.

Damn straight!

[Jabberwalker]

andyt andyt:

Lots (as in more than two) starting to crop up in Vancouver. Makes me want to puke every time.

I think that it's a form of abuse.

[Regina]

martin14 martin14:

$1:

that niqab does not fit into the mode of Canadian citizens.�

It doesn't.


Citizenship isn't a right, it's a privilege. Can't adhere to the rules,
don't become a citizen.

Period.

Can't argue with that. Minimum requirement to say the least. IMHO the bar is set too low......
Don't nudge it to let the low life's in.

[Freakinoldguy]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

andyt andyt:

Lots (as in more than two) starting to crop up in Vancouver. Makes me want to puke every time.

I think that it's a form of abuse.

Clarification please. Is andyt puking abuse or the wearing of a niqab abuse. Inquiring minds want to know?

[sandorski]

The person should be required to identify themselves, when it is necessary(taking an oath would certainly meet that condition). However, outside of someone verifying that persons identity, to require people to then violate their Religious practice during the Ceremony is antithetical to Religious Freedom.

[Jabberwalker]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

andyt andyt:

Lots (as in more than two) starting to crop up in Vancouver. Makes me want to puke every time.

I think that it's a form of abuse.

Clarification please. Is andyt puking abuse or the wearing of a niqab abuse. Inquiring minds want to know?

... a little bit of this and a little bit of that ...

[PublicAnimalNo9]

sandorski sandorski:

The person should be required to identify themselves, when it is necessary(taking an oath would certainly meet that condition). However, outside of someone verifying that persons identity, to require people to then violate their Religious practice during the Ceremony is antithetical to Religious Freedom.

The niqab is not, repeat NOT, a religious garment.
It's a cultural symbol of oppression.