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Title: Brawl mars Brampton Liberal nomination: party official
Category: Political
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2014-09-23 00:28:09
Canadian

[martin14]

3rd world politics.

[QBall]

martin14 martin14:

3rd world politics.

Now in your backyard!

[Delwin]

What horribly written tripe. No sources except "party Officials said". And 2 corrections in a 200 word article.

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Correction – September 22, 2014: This article was edited from a previous version that mistakenly said Halton police were called to the meeting. As well, the article mistakenly referred to Brampton’s International Centre. In fact, the event took place at the International Centre in Mississauga.

Way to hang on to those journalistic standards Toronto Star, take a bow.

If you read the article, there is actually zero supporting evidence that a brawl even took place.

[Delwin]

This is a better source for what actually happened:

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Peel Const. Thomas Ruttan said officers responded to the political event around 2:15 p.m. after a call reporting a verbal altercation. When police arrived they learned the event was "over-populated," Ruttan said, but no arrests were made.

"We just stayed to keep the peace," he said.

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Despite claims to the contrary, the Liberal Party of Canada said there was no physical altercations at the event that attracted the largest voting turnout at any of the 97 nomination meetings that had been held to date across the country. There were 2,910 ballots cast Sunday, according to party officials.

"There was no brawl," said Olivier Duchesneau, a spokesperson for the Liberal Party of Canada.

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/487 ... -function/

[bootlegga]

Take that Taiwan Parliament!

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Delwin Delwin:

This is a better source for what actually happened:

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Peel Const. Thomas Ruttan said officers responded to the political event around 2:15 p.m. after a call reporting a verbal altercation. When police arrived they learned the event was "over-populated," Ruttan said, but no arrests were made.

"We just stayed to keep the peace," he said.

$1:

Despite claims to the contrary, the Liberal Party of Canada said there was no physical altercations at the event that attracted the largest voting turnout at any of the 97 nomination meetings that had been held to date across the country. There were 2,910 ballots cast Sunday, according to party officials.

"There was no brawl," said Olivier Duchesneau, a spokesperson for the Liberal Party of Canada.

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/487 ... -function/

Considering The Record is part of the Torstar Corporation, I'm not sure how it's a better source than the Star when it's in the same media family.

[martin14]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Considering The Record is part of the Torstar Corporation, I'm not sure how it's a better source than the Star when it's in the same media family.

Just lefties running around denying everything as usual.


JT and his Liberal open and honest nominations is turning into quite the circus.

With Justine as head clown.

[Delwin]

The quote from the police is the source of the info. Toronto star is the outlet that presented the info and used "Liberal Officals" as a source.

You see, they are both sources of info to readers but require sources of info to report the news. Except of course right wing blowhards like Ezra Levant who are busy making their own news.

You see how that works ?

And so you are saying there was a brawl with 700 witnesses and they couldn't get 1 interview or 1 actual quote from a real person to back that up. And no one was arrested and no injuries were reported.

Bullshit.

As a reader I am compelled to ask ? What exactly constitutes a brawl in their mind ? Was there a punch thrown ? How many people were involved ? Weapons ? Male or female ? Anything ?

These are questions that any competent journalist would have asked.

These idiots couldn't even get the city or the police force involved correct. Terrible, just terrible.

[N_Fiddledog]

It was the Peel police in Mississauga though. Those of us who followed the story of the Palestine House zealots assaults on the JDL supporters in Mississauga remember the Peel police as politically correct, double speakers who would be right at home in Rotherham.

[Delwin]

Actually I followed that story and remember nothing of the sort. I just remember you getting some kind of a bizarre release from the fact that pro-Israeli supporters were able to incite a violent confrontation.

[martin14]

Delwin Delwin:

to incite a violent confrontation.

Right, we should leave our little muzzies alone, lest they get violent.

[Delwin]

Or maybe just don't show up at their front door and call them baby killers just because they are Palestinian when thousands of innocent Palestinians are being killed because of the actions of a few terrorists

[N_Fiddledog]

Delwin Delwin:

Actually I followed that story and remember nothing of the sort. I just remember you getting some kind of a bizarre release from the fact that pro-Israeli supporters were able to incite a violent confrontation.

Speaking of double-speak...

Also selective memory. I'm not going to bother, but I'm pretty sure if you go back to that thread you're going to find a Peel cop clearly speaking out both sides of his mouth and describing nothing like what the other videos on that thread will clearly show - the larger group violently attacking the smaller one with weapons.

But forget about that, for a sec. Let's get back on subject. Now, as to what you call "a better source", which to those of us who speak prog converts into you're referencing some Mickey Mouse publication you were able to find after ignoring five other sources that says something more like what you want to hear.

But yeah different publications are giving slightly different versions.

Basically though, it sounds like this.

Some supporters of one candidate complained, alleging some of them were not being allowed to vote. An altercation of some sort occurred outside the Hall. A liberal official later claimed there was no altercation, but was he talking about "inside" the hall. The ones claiming an altercation said it happened outside.

Either the Halton police, or the Peel police, or they're the same thing were called. They now claim they were called either to “keep the peace”, or for "crowd control".

Here's a selection of reports.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/09/23 ... y-occured/

http://www.640toronto.com/2014/09/22/33392/

I'm going to go with this one...

“The complaints that we were hearing from a lot of our members was that their names were not on the (voters) list today, although they got invitations to come to the nomination meeting,” said the association’s executive vice-president, Amarinder Singh. “They waited the whole hour to get to the polling station, but then, they were turned away.”

Singh said those who were denied their votes gathered outside, where eventually a brawl erupted. Halton police confirmed officers were sent to the event at Malton’s International Centre, but would say only that they were there for “crowd control.”

http://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/ ... n-meeting/

[Delwin]

Right, Singh said they were denied entry, where a brawl ensued (unsubstatiated and unsourced.)

So Singh says they were denied entry. The denied entry is not in question. That a brawl ensued is what is in question. Singh never said a brawl ensued and even if he did, he was not outside.
They chose to couple the fact that Singh said this with the assumption that a brawl occurred.

Here is Singh's quote:

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“The complaints that we were hearing from a lot of our members was that their names were not on the (voters) list today, although they got invitations to come to the nomination meeting,” said the association’s executive vice-president, Amarinder Singh. “They waited the whole hour to get to the polling station, but then, they were turned away.”

Please provide evidence, not hearsay. There is a difference, it's why your blog posts don't pass as news.

The fact is there in not one quote from anyone indicating a brawl actually occured. So what exactly is the source of this info ?

Certainly not the police's account, and certainly not any liberal leader's account of the events.

So where ?

The post actually got it right:

contentious meeting where brawl allegedly occurred