CKA Forums
Login 
canadian forums
bottom
 
 
Canadian Forums

Author Topic Options
Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Vancouver Canucks
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 30650
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:09 am
 


Title: Fed appeals court panel says most Obamacare subsidies illegal
Category: Uncle Sam
Posted By: martin14
Date: 2014-07-22 10:06:43


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Montreal Canadiens
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 33691
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:09 am
 


It's a real circus, keeps going round and round.


Offline
CKA Moderator
CKA Moderator
 Vancouver Canucks


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 65472
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:11 am
 


Interesting in this case is it's a liberal court saying that the law does not allow for subsidies to those who signed up on the Federal website...and the court is right.

Now it falls to Congress to fix it and the Republicans are making it clear that the Democrats made this thing in secret without any Republican input and the Republicans are content to let the Democrats choke on it.

As they should.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
 Calgary Flames
Profile
Posts: 33561
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:28 am
 


And a couple of hours later a different court with more authority upholds the ACA and strikes down the lower court's faulty ruling.

Par for the course. By now the ACA is not reversible, but it's opponents will keep trying. Making a minor court decision into some kind of major strategic victory is probably all they have left to make them momentarily happy because it's inevitable that a higher court will uphold the ACA as being completely leal and constitutional. This has happened several times over the last couple of years, with the same outcome occurring every time.


Offline
CKA Moderator
CKA Moderator
 Vancouver Canucks


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 65472
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:24 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
And a couple of hours later a different court with more authority upholds the ACA and strikes down the lower court's faulty ruling.


Nope. They're equal courts but two different districts. The fact of the two contrary rulings will fast track this to the Supreme Court to resolve the discrepancy.


Offline
CKA Moderator
CKA Moderator
 Vancouver Canucks


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 65472
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:39 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
By now the ACA is not reversible.


Can the current Congress repeal it? Not at all.

But if the Republicans refuse to fix it then it will eventually be such a cluster that the Democrats will repeal it.

Like I said, there's no reason why the Republicans should fix ACA given that the Democrats wrote it in secret, passed it without a reading, and then used a variety of parliamentary tricks to silence Republican commentary.

The Democrats own this pig from top to bottom and I wholly support the Republicans as they let the Damnocrats swing at the end of their rope like they deserve.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 33492
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:04 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Interesting in this case is it's a liberal court saying that the law does not allow for subsidies to those who signed up on the Federal website...and the court is right.

Now it falls to Congress to fix it and the Republicans are making it clear that the Democrats made this thing in secret without any Republican input and the Republicans are content to let the Democrats choke on it.

As they should.


$1:
A little after 10am Tuesday morning, two Republican judges on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ordered much of the Affordable Care Act defunded. Just two hours later, another federal appeals court, the Fourth Circuit, issued a unanimous opinion upholding the same subsidies that were struck down in the DC Circuit’s order.

In the end, the battle between the Fourth Circuit and the DC Circuit is a battle over who gets to make law. Normally, that power rests with Congress, but when a law is ambiguous, the Supreme Court has long recognized that courts should defer to the Executive Branch. This rule achieves two ends. It ensures that agencies with expertise on a particular area of law get to interpret that law, rather than leaving matters to inexpert judges. And it also ensures that the people who make important policy decisions are ultimately accountable to the American people.
If the electorate does not approve of the Obama Administration’s reading of this law, then the Fourth Circuit’s opinion permits them to vote for a different president who will read the law in a different way. The DC Circuit, however, would steal this decision away from the American people, and place it in the hands of a few unelected officials in black robes.


F'n activist Republican judges.


Offline
CKA Moderator
CKA Moderator
 Vancouver Canucks


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 65472
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:49 pm
 


andyt andyt:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Interesting in this case is it's a liberal court...


F'n activist Republican judges.


It's the DC Circuit. If the two judges were card-carrying Nazis they'd still have to be liberals to get on that bench.


Offline
CKA Uber
CKA Uber


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 23093
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:04 pm
 




Offline
CKA Moderator
CKA Moderator
 Vancouver Canucks


GROUP_AVATAR
User avatar
Profile
Posts: 65472
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:42 pm
 


bootlegga bootlegga:


Attachments:
File comment: Bill Maher
original.jpg
original.jpg [ 73.03 KiB | Viewed 213 times ]
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 42 guests




 
     
All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © Canadaka.net. Powered by © phpBB.