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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:32 pm
Charges for the people running this facility should be in order.
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Xort
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:42 pm
Goober911 Goober911: Charges for the people running this facility should be in order. Should charges for the health care workers that kill thousands of people a year due to medicine being miss administered also be looked into? I'm not say that it's acceptable for a care facility to accidentally kill people, but when the error happens in a hospital no one seems to care very much.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:17 am
$1: It also said “at times the locked drug cabinet was not used and the medication was kept on top of the stove.” Charges damn well should be laid, a clear case of negligence with medication left laying around.
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Regina 
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:24 am
Xort Xort: Should charges for the health care workers that kill thousands of people a year due to medicine being miss administered also be looked into?
Got any data to back up that claim?
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:43 am
$1: “There’s good intensive — expensive, but intensive — behavioural therapy that can really help these kids or there is drugs,” Notley said. “And a lot of times, that latter is the much cheaper way to deal with the problem.” Sounds like the govt warehousing kids in the cheapest way possible.
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:51 am
Regina Regina: Xort Xort: Should charges for the health care workers that kill thousands of people a year due to medicine being miss administered also be looked into?
Got any data to back up that claim? Medication errors led to severe harm or death in 36 Ontario cases, report findshttp://www.cbc.ca/news/health/medicatio ... -1.1305324
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andyt
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:55 am
So maybe 150 across Canada, not the thousands that Xort would have. In the US, at least, iatrogenic deaths as a whole are 3rd leading cause of death. Says similar percentages are true for Canada, so that would be 225,000 per year.
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Regina 
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:56 am
OnTheIce OnTheIce: Medication errors led to severe harm or death in 36 Ontario cases, report findshttp://www.cbc.ca/news/health/medicatio ... -1.1305324 $1: Should charges for the health care workers that kill thousands of people a year due to medicine being miss administered also be looked into? Definitely happen, but I thought the extreme exaggeration needed some supporting data.
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:34 am
andyt andyt: So maybe 150 across Canada, not the thousands that Xort would have. In the US, at least, iatrogenic deaths as a whole are 3rd leading cause of death. Says similar percentages are true for Canada, so that would be 225,000 per year. That we know of. Medical errors in general cost the lives of hundreds of thousands in US and Canada.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:19 pm
Regina Regina: OnTheIce OnTheIce: Medication errors led to severe harm or death in 36 Ontario cases, report findshttp://www.cbc.ca/news/health/medicatio ... -1.1305324 $1: Should charges for the health care workers that kill thousands of people a year due to medicine being miss administered also be looked into? Definitely happen, but I thought the extreme exaggeration needed some supporting data. Xort exagerates... say it ain't so. 
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:26 pm
So what about the child that died? We warehouse them, many die, inquests held, nothing happens. Recall the grandson starved to death by that scum in TO- The social worker was retained and promoted. AB has done a great job of hiding that information. Ah Privacy concerns. Right.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:42 pm
raydan raydan: Regina Regina: OnTheIce OnTheIce: Medication errors led to severe harm or death in 36 Ontario cases, report findshttp://www.cbc.ca/news/health/medicatio ... -1.1305324 $1: Should charges for the health care workers that kill thousands of people a year due to medicine being miss administered also be looked into? Definitely happen, but I thought the extreme exaggeration needed some supporting data. Xort exagerates... say it ain't so.  I too shall add a  for I am also in shock.
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Xort
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:54 pm
raydan raydan: Xort exagerates... say it ain't so.  It's not exaggerated, it's a reverse calculation from the US. Take the US number divide it by 12, then because we are 'just better' than the US halve the number again, and you get thousands of cases of preventable deaths caused by medical errors, of which most are caused by improper use of medication. If you are rejecting my extrapolation method, then feel free to show how the Canadian system is at least more than twice as safe as the US system, which while hugely expensive is a reasonable and modern health care system. Or take it from the other side, how many medical error caused deaths do you think happen in Canada each year? Only 36 in Ontario?
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Regina 
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:37 am
Xort Xort: raydan raydan: Xort exagerates... say it ain't so.  It's not exaggerated, it's a reverse calculation from the US. Take the US number divide it by 12, then because we are 'just better' than the US halve the number again, and you get thousands of cases of preventable deaths caused by medical errors, of which most are caused by improper use of medication. If you are rejecting my extrapolation method, then feel free to show how the Canadian system is at least more than twice as safe as the US system, which while hugely expensive is a reasonable and modern health care system. Or take it from the other side, how many medical error caused deaths do you think happen in Canada each year? Only 36 in Ontario? Hard to believe someone can shit the bed twice on the same page, yet you have done it. Take a look at what you said the first time and look at your last post. Next actually read the article link and adjust you deaths in Ontario. Then find the actual data and post it instead of using your dart and Quji board.
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