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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:19 am
 


Title: NHL player in grizzly bear hunting dispute with B.C. First Nations
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Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2013-09-04 14:14:43
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:19 am
 


This wasn't hunting this was trophy seeking. I agree with the First Nations folks.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:11 am
 


On a personal level I'm a little disgusted by the idea of killing an animal and taking just he head and paws, but the issue here is do these first nations have a legal right to declare no hunting on that piece of land? It should be pretty cut and dried, either the hunter broke the law, or he didn't.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:31 am
 


$1:
The Minnesota Wild defenceman says he shot the grizzly while hunting with a grizzly bear hunting licence issued by the B.C. government as part of the annual lottery.


He wasn't poaching. He had the permit to take the animal.

His opponents can pound sand.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:35 am
 


[quote="Unsound"]On a personal level I'm a little disgusted by the idea of killing an animal and taking just he head and paws, but the issue here is do these first nations have a legal right to declare no hunting on that piece of land? It should be pretty cut and dried, either the hunter broke the law, or he didn't.[/quot ]

They(natives) seem to think they can hunt whenever and wherever they please. I've had to chase a few of them off our land for hunting and fishing(in sloughs my neighbours and I stocked) without permission. If someone asked, I had no trouble, and most do ask. All that being said, bear hunting for trophies isn't really my thing. I don't hunt them for meat either as I don't like bear, and I don't need a rug, as I have carpeting.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:36 am
 


Unsound Unsound:
On a personal level I'm a little disgusted by the idea of killing an animal and taking just he head and paws, but the issue here is do these first nations have a legal right to declare no hunting on that piece of land? It should be pretty cut and dried, either the hunter broke the law, or he didn't.


They(natives) seem to think they can hunt whenever and wherever they please. I've had to chase a few of them off our land for hunting and fishing(in sloughs my neighbours and I stocked) without permission. If someone asked, I had no trouble, and most do ask. All that being said, bear hunting for trophies isn't really my thing. I don't hunt them for meat either as I don't like bear, and I don't need a rug, as I have carpeting. If you aren't going to eat it, and it's not a threat or a nuisance, don't kill it.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:58 am
 


Trophy hunting is pretty sick, IMO, but it does represent a fairly significant part of the economy in parts of this country. I have a friend who moonlights as a fishing and hunting guide in Northern Ontario and, if it weren't for American trophy hunters, he and a lot of folks in his community would be broke.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:40 am
 


At a lot of reserves in BC they'll shoot a bear just for getting too close. Heack, they'll shoot anything that gets too close.

Not a big fan of trophy hunting though. It's not like it's a challenge, given today's technological resources. Right up there with dog fighting as far as I'm concerened. I don't know why one is condoned and one is condemned.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:58 am
 


Considering that the criticism is coming from a community that once ended the life of a killer whale by feeding garbage like candy bars to it, I think what the Natives are whining about can be successfully ignored, as usual. They don't "care" about the land or animals anymore than anyone else does and it's long past time everyone else figured it out. Considering that it's Native poachers that are also involved in everything from illegal fishing out-of-season, to wiping out seals and sea lions in order to sell their penises to the assholes in China, to also killing lots and lot and lots of bears just to sell their various body parts (once again) to the Chinese, what leg exactly do these hypocrits have to stand on to cast judgement over Stoner or any other white man?

Oh, sorry, forgot the formula again. Natives, CBC reporting, always victims, whitey evil, blah blah, fucking blah. SOP SNAFU OMG WTF BBQ, and the beat goes on. :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:00 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
I think what the Natives are whining about can be successfully ignored, as usual.



Amen.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:37 am
 


As an ex-hunter I see that he didn't break any laws or regulations. But that being said, and as others have noted, trophy hunting is just plain wrong.


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