[Newsbot]

Title: 'Bash mobs' sweep through Southern California
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: maldonsfecht
Date: 2013-07-20 04:40:54

[maldonsfecht]

Even out here in Nova Scotia, I get a few Yankee channels that are really local channels from far afield (Atlanta, Chicago, LA and such) and last night I got a looksee at this gem from LA. I've heard of this type of criminality in Baltimore and there have even been mobbings in Halifax, but these seem a bit larger and the recent frequency is disturbing. I dislike large groups of people on a good day; this makes me happy to stay on the little cove here and converse with the raccoons and deer that wander by.

[N_Fiddledog]

An unexpected tweet treat of Obamaphones.

[Thanos]

The "urban youth" do this sort of shit and they they have the gall to complain about why Zimmerman was nervous about Trayvon.

[andyt]

Thanos Thanos:

The "urban youth" do this sort of shit and they they have the gall to complain about why Zimmerman was nervous about Trayvon.

A mob of one? As Obama pointed out, Trayvon had plenty of reasons to be nervous about Zimmerman as well. Zimmerman would have been found guilty of manslaughter here in a heartbeat, and thank God for that.

[commanderkai]

andyt andyt:

A mob of one? As Obama pointed out, Trayvon had plenty of reasons to be nervous about Zimmerman as well. Zimmerman would have been found guilty of manslaughter here in a heartbeat, and thank God for that.

Why? The evidence presented in the trial pretty much highlighted self defense. If he would be convicted of manslaughter in Canada, then Canada has a big problem.

[Thanos]

Maybe. I'm fairly certain that some of these scumbags also were being all sadly soulful and going "why's everyone always picking on us?" at some of last week's Justice For Trayvon. Not that anyone's ever been really interested in asking but, when they act like that, it's also one of the main reasons so many white Americans have been arming themselves to the teeth for the last fifty years.

[martin14]

commanderkai commanderkai:

andyt andyt:

A mob of one? As Obama pointed out, Trayvon had plenty of reasons to be nervous about Zimmerman as well. Zimmerman would have been found guilty of manslaughter here in a heartbeat, and thank God for that.

Why? The evidence presented in the trial pretty much highlighted self defense. If he would be convicted of manslaughter in Canada, then Canada has a big problem.

Because you are not allowed to protect yourself in Canada.

If you won, you were too aggressive.

[andyt]

Well Trayvon isn't here to tell us his side of the story and why his actions may have been self-defense, is he? You leave your car to challenge somebody you're deemed here to be participating in a fight. You kill them in that fight and you're going to have consequences, not walk when the other is unarmed.

[peck420]

andyt andyt:

Well Trayvon isn't here to tell us his side of the story and why his actions may have been self-defense, is he? You leave your car to challenge somebody you're deemed here to be participating in a fight. You kill them in that fight and you're going to have consequences, not walk when the other is unarmed.

Well, if that was even remotely close to what had happened, Zimmerman would be in jail...in Florida as well as Canada.

At least try to familiarize yourself with court proven facts before the nonsense wheels start spinning.

Leave the media muddlefuck to the media.

[andyt]

Really? He left his car when he didn't have to - that was also proven in court. Not sure what else was proven - ie who started the altercation - we only have one side for that. But again, in Canada, Zimmerman would never have walked, he had too many opportunities to walk, or drive, rather, while Trayvon was still alive.

[commanderkai]

andyt andyt:

Really? He left his car when he didn't have to - that was also proven in court.

But that's not a crime, and a far stretch that Zimmerman had some ill will towards Martin, or intended to engage in some fight with him.

Seriously, is being followed an excuse to fight somebody now? I better start attacking drivers who follow my same path for too long.

$1:

Not sure what else was proven - ie who started the altercation - we only have one side for that. But again, in Canada, Zimmerman would never have walked, he had too many opportunities to walk, or drive, rather, while Trayvon was still alive.

The prosecution had no evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman's view of events was wrong. The various witnesses put more credence in Zimmerman's account of events over anything else, and the physical evidence, including the type and angle of the bullet wound on Martin makes a clear case that Martin was shot while leaning over Zimmerman from a close range.

The evidence would have been the same in Canada and the United States.

[martin14]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

andyt andyt:

There is my wet dream

No, but in reality - heard of it? It's the place where the rest of us live - it looked like this.

No, he hasn't heard of reality.

He will rewrite any and all facts in this case to support his own fantasy theories.


You've been warned, kai.

[peck420]

andyt andyt:

Really? He left his car when he didn't have to - that was also proven in court. Not sure what else was proven - ie who started the altercation - we only have one side for that. But again, in Canada, Zimmerman would never have walked, he had too many opportunities to walk, or drive, rather, while Trayvon was still alive.

It was proven that Zimmerman and Martin had zero contact until Zimmerman started heading back to his vehicle. All of Zimmerman's, the dispatcher's, the detective's, and Ms. Jeantel's testimonies made note that Zimmerman began heading back to his vehicle when he lost visual on Martin. The assault occurred after that point.

And, it is proven that the voice calling for help (phone recording) is not Martin's. Now, seeing as there was only two persons involved...I think we can guess whose voice it was.

Finally, in Canada, there is a very good chance Zimmerman would have walked as well.

Let's review Canada's check list:

Zimmerman would have required proper documentation to carry a concealed weapon...check. Zimmerman was licensed appropriately for the weapon he carried.

Zimmerman would only be allowed to use deadly force if he could prove that he was on the receiving end of grievous bodily harm...check. The medical records confirmed that Zimmerman's head was being hit into the ground, whether intentionally or as a result of the punches to the face...not overly relevant at that point. Even Canada recognizes head injuries as grievous.

Zimmerman would only be allowed to use deadly force if he could prove that he's was unable to escape the situation without use of deadly force...check. Witness testimony (the only witness to the actual fight) puts Zimmerman pinned to the ground by Martin.

Zimmerman would only be allowed to claim self defence if he did not initiate the conflict...check. All evidence supports the claim that there was zero interaction between Martin and Zimmerman until after Zimmerman had begun to retreat from the situation.

Now, that all being said...Martin's legal team would have tried to claim that Zimmerman 'provoked' Martin (provocation nullifies deadly force self defence in Canada), but they would have failed due to there being zero interaction between Martin and Zimmerman until after Zimmerman began to retreat.

I think a great deal of you guys need to brush up on Canadian Self Defence laws as well...

[Brenda]

peck420 peck420:

andyt andyt:

Really? He left his car when he didn't have to - that was also proven in court. Not sure what else was proven - ie who started the altercation - we only have one side for that. But again, in Canada, Zimmerman would never have walked, he had too many opportunities to walk, or drive, rather, while Trayvon was still alive.

It was proven that Zimmerman and Martin had zero contact until Zimmerman started heading back to his vehicle. All of Zimmerman's, the dispatcher's, the detective's, and Ms. Jeantel's testimonies made note that Zimmerman began heading back to his vehicle when he lost visual on Martin. The assault occurred after that point.

Not fact. Interpretation. Martin asked Zimmerman 'what you following me for'. How do you know that was when Zimmerman was walking back?

$1:

And, it is proven that the voice calling for help (phone recording) is not Martin's. Now, seeing as there was only two persons involved...I think we can guess whose voice it was.

That is NOT proven, because it CAN'T be proven.