[Newsbot]

Title: NSA leaker Snowden fails to take Cuba flight
Category: World
Posted By: commanderkai
Date: 2013-06-24 09:44:30

[commanderkai]

Looks like the Russians wanted to have a few long, hard discussions with Snowden.

[Zipperfish]

It's an interesting switch, We used to cheer for those who took great personal risks to escape from the Iron Curtain. Now you have Russia and China cheering for a guy who took great personal risk to escape the clutches of the US security apparatus.

[BartSimpson]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Looks like the Russians wanted to have a few long, hard discussions with Snowden.

Naw. More likely they're just enjoying the opportunity to poke the US in the eye after the legions of defectors and political criminals we've taken in over the decades.

And it is perfectly fair to call Snowden a political refugee for the simple reason that so many Russians & etc. who've the same things to their own countries have received asylum in the US as political refugees.

[QBall]

$1:

But on Monday, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said it would be "deeply troubling" if Russia or Hong Kong had adequate notice about Snowden's plans to flee to a country that will grant him asylum and still allowed him leave.

It's called: He's your problem now. Quite frankly if I were Russia or Hong Kong I would be doing everything possible to get the pain in the ass out of the country (after grilling him for every piece of info you can get of course).

[BartSimpson]

QBall QBall:

$1:

But on Monday, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said it would be "deeply troubling" if Russia or Hong Kong had adequate notice about Snowden's plans to flee to a country that will grant him asylum and still allowed him leave.

It's called: He's your problem now. Quite frankly if I were Russia or Hong Kong I would be doing everything possible to get the pain in the ass out of the country (after grilling him for every piece of info you can get of course).

The Russians offered him asylum. I'm surprised he didn't accept their offer.

[Thanos]

Pro-Beijing newspaper in Hong Kong quotes Snowden as having taken work with the NSA specifically to steal information to distribute to Wikileaks and other US enemies:

$1:

For the first time, Snowden has admitted he sought a position at Booz Allen Hamilton so he could collect proof about the US National Security Agency's secret surveillance programmes ahead of planned leaks to the media.

"My position with Booz Allen Hamilton granted me access to lists of machines all over the world the NSA hacked," he told the Post on June 12. "That is why I accepted that position about three months ago."

At which point does the hagiography for this fucking disgusting TRAITOR come to an end?

[Zipperfish]

No saint, no traitor for me. Somewhere in the middle. He swore an oath of loyalty to the US as a former CIA agent. On the other hand the American government should have told people what they were up to.

[Thanos]

All indications are that he's one of Ron Paul's internet idiots that got all riled up with the campaigns idiotic libertarian/Randroid bullshit back in 2008. If he took a government job with the deliberate aim of stealing classified information and of sabotage then he absolutely is a traitor. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility either that he's also either a Chinese or Russian agent. He went straight to Wikileaks and it's well known by now that Assange's main Wikileaks partner is a crazed Jew-hater in Russia who's probably a Russian intelligence agent himself. This Snowden fucker'll deserve every year of the life sentence he'll get in a federal Supermax prison if he ever sets foot on US soil again.

[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

All indications are that he's one of Ron Paul's internet idiots that got all riled up with the campaigns idiotic libertarian/Randroid bullshit back in 2008. If he took a government job with the deliberate aim of stealing classified information and of sabotage then he absolutely is a traitor. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility either that he's also either a Chinese or Russian agent. He went straight to Wikileaks and it's well known by now that Assange's main Wikileaks partner is a crazed Jew-hater in Russia who's probably a Russian intelligence agent himself. This Snowden fucker'll deserve every year of the life sentence he'll get in a federal Supermax prison if he ever sets foot on US soil again.

This whole Wikileaks business has the makings of an epic movie.

I concede that there is a moral line between getting a job and swearing an oath with every intention of reneging on it, versus being horrified at teh extent of secret surveillance and releasing that information.

[commanderkai]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

commanderkai commanderkai:

Looks like the Russians wanted to have a few long, hard discussions with Snowden.

Naw. More likely they're just enjoying the opportunity to poke the US in the eye after the legions of defectors and political criminals we've taken in over the decades.

If he didn't miss his flight, I'd agree with you, but considering he did miss a flight to Cuba, I have a feeling Russia's intelligence agency (The GRU, right? Not sure) are extracting information out of him as we speak

[Public_Domain]

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

No saint, no traitor for me. Somewhere in the middle. He swore an oath of loyalty to the US as a former CIA agent. On the other hand the American government should have told people what they were up to.

Exactly. If they weren't doing anything wrong they wouldn't have been caught.

[Thanos]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

People like Thanos make skumbags like me completely support intellectual attrition cyber-warfare; bring total war to the security banks; fuck my safety.

Are you, like Snowden deliberately , planning to take four laptops full of stolen information and let it all be copied by the Chinese government? And then move onto Russia and let Vladimir Putin's government do the same thing?

This is where self-proclaimed anarchists and anti-authoritarians, like the fever swamp of the Ron Paul 2008 circus where Snowden decided to become an "activist" are so full of shit. He's claiming the US is a fascist dictatorship yet his world tour for refuge has an itinerary where he's stopping in every crap dictatorship (China, Russian, possibly Cuba, possibly Haiti, possibly Venezuela, possibly Ecuador) where government authoritarianism is genuinely real. All countries where the idea of a free press is an absolute joke and where average citizens get routinely jailed, for real, whenever they butt up against any of the genuinely harsh laws the governments of these places have to keep dissent supressed.

But why am I bothering. You're a Communist and you support all these governments and what they do anyway. Just like Bart hates Barack Obama so much he'd sooner support Vladimir Putin, the quasi-militarists that followed in beloved Hugo Chavez' footsteps, and the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party. Waste of bloody time on my part is what this is.

[Thanos]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

No saint, no traitor for me. Somewhere in the middle. He swore an oath of loyalty to the US as a former CIA agent. On the other hand the American government should have told people what they were up to.

Exactly. If they weren't doing anything wrong they wouldn't have been caught.

So you hate your own government and own President so much you're willing to ignore the world tour of dictatorships that Snowden is taking this information to? Nice.

"Free Julius Rosenberg!"

- Bart Simpson