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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:50 am
 


Title: Anglophones protest PQ's plan to boost Bill 101
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: saturn_656
Date: 2012-09-01 12:44:13
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:50 am
 


We have Michelle Bachmann and Sara Palin you have Pauline Marois. The US doesn't have a monopoly on mentally cracked politicians.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:47 pm
 


Pauline Marois (French pronunciation: [pɔlin maʁwa]; born March 29, 1949) is the current leader of the Parti Québécois in the province of Quebec, since June 27, 2007 and current Leader of the Official Opposition of the National Assembly of Quebec, representing the riding of Charlevoix. In a political career spanning some 30 years, she has held a total of 15 ministerial titles.

More can be found at wikipedia and I'm not sure why you think she is mentally cracked. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:01 pm
 


Not cracked, just a very vocal anti-anglo bigot.

That plays very well to a good chunk of the electorate.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:23 pm
 


Nope, I'd say she was cracked. Actively destroying a country's unity for mere personal gain can't be considered normal behaviour.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:32 pm
 


SprCForr SprCForr:
Nope, I'd say she was cracked. Actively destroying a country's unity for mere personal gain can't be considered normal behaviour.


I wonder...really wonder... if she's is merely trumpeting the party line in order to achieve political power as opposed to a real honest to goodness move towards separation. She and anyone else with half a brain must know that Quebec on its own would only survive by going through the same austerity measures that all of the other failing social program heavy economies in Europe are trying to do now. It would be absolute political suicide to succeed but a political goldmine to try and fail.

I think she knows this.

Bread and circuses with the sovereignty movement until they hit 51% yes - then disaster.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:02 pm
 


Just out of curiosity, with all the talk on the forum about this woman. I youtubed her. She can hardly speak any English, isn't it a requirement to be biligual to be in government ? Or they have their own rules there ? Or this level of English is good enough and vice versa ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Jmx_TcYCs

P.S : She looks like that evil conniving granny Stephanie Forrester from bold and the beautiful and probably more eviler


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:01 pm
 


This is provincial politics and Quebec is officially unilingual. The French living in France likely have a better command of English than many Quebecois do


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:30 pm
 


Hell the fact that she speaks poor/no English is a mark in her favour as far as the PQ is concerned.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:36 pm
 


I got in shit from Mrs. Lemmy this summer for yelling "POURQUOI?", as loud as I could, at all the rude Frenchies on Old Orchard Beach, ME. I'm bringin' it back. :twisted:

POURQUOI?

POURQUOI?

POURQUOI?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:41 pm
 


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I got in shit from Mrs. Lemmy this summer for yelling "POURQUOI?", as loud as I could, at all the rude Frenchies on Old Orchard Beach, ME. I'm bringin' it back. :twisted:

POURQUOI?

POURQUOI?

POURQUOI?


and I thought I was the only one who did this... :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:54 pm
 


Ah, so Quebec is unilingual. Isn't that kind of fucked up ? The majority has to learn the minority and the minority to does not have to learn the majority. Starting to get a clearer picture why everyone is so piss tired of Quebec and its shananigans.

Never liked the French anyways and I say this from personal experience of the many many occasions I've had to deal with them, and this might sound pretty racist and even bigoted but I think any one who has significant exposure to the French also has a nasty french effect. For example almost every Labanese I know and have met ( and there have been tons ) have been complete assholes with a very rare exception of this one fella I met a year ago. But he spent a big chink of his life outside Lebanon.

And to me the ironic thing is ( from what I've heard/read ) is that the French don't consider Canadian French ( the language ) to be actually French or atleast proper French. Something about how continental French has evolved and while Quebec French being isolated for centuries and with outside influence has turned into something else. Don't know how far that is accurate though.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:11 am
 


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Ah, so Quebec is unilingual. Isn't that kind of fucked up ? The majority has to learn the minority and the minority to does not have to learn the majority. Starting to get a clearer picture why everyone is so piss tired of Quebec and its shananigans.


Not quite. No one is forced to learn any language (unless you fall afoul of québécois laws regarding language and education). What bothers me most is that Quebec is the only province trying to legislate an official language out of existence (or into irrelevancy) in its jurisdiction. What makes it worse is that it isn't only the PQ pushing this (although they are the most forceful), pissing on the anglos is a cross partisan tradition in Quebec. Liberals seem to back the status quo while the PQ and CAQ favour further restrictions on English.

Quebec could deal with its anglo minority the way New Brunswick deals with its francophone minority, with official bilingualism (which Quebec had once upon a time.)

Too much to expect I guess.

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And to me the ironic thing is ( from what I've heard/read ) is that the French don't consider Canadian French ( the language ) to be actually French or atleast proper French. Something about how continental French has evolved and while Quebec French being isolated for centuries and with outside influence has turned into something else. Don't know how far that is accurate though.


The dialect Quebecers speak is most similar to a common dialect of 17th century French. I've read that some Parisians consider it "archaic French" as it is permeated with slang, informalities, out of use terms, etc which can confuse the hell out of a speaker of standard (Parisian) French.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:09 pm
 


saturn_656 saturn_656:

Not quite. No one is forced to learn any language (unless you fall afoul of québécois laws regarding language and education). What bothers me most is that Quebec is the only province trying to legislate an official language out of existence (or into irrelevancy) in its jurisdiction. What makes it worse is that it isn't only the PQ pushing this (although they are the most forceful), pissing on the anglos is a cross partisan tradition in Quebec. Liberals seem to back the status quo while the PQ and CAQ favour further restrictions on English.



Of all the school boards I know in Ontario, learning French is mandatory for children in grades 6-9.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:18 pm
 


$1:
The dialect Quebecers speak is most similar to a common dialect of 17th century French.
At the time most ofthem left France there really was no 'standard' French. As you pointed out they had their own dialect which developed out of the dialects spoken in Brittany and Normandy, where most Quebecois originated from.


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