[Newsbot]

Title: Crime rate lowest since 1972: Statistics Canada
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: BeaverFever
Date: 2012-07-24 06:41:49
Canadian

[BeaverFever]

But wait! We still need to spend billions more on new jails and more armed citizens....don't we???

[Thanos]

Mushy stats being exploited by social liberals won't mean much to the next person who gets their face eaten off by a crackhead. Or the family of someone who gets shot in the head at what should be a safe public gathering by some rotten fuck with a machinegun. Or a baby at a community BBQ who takes a bullet from the local gangsta sociopaths when they open up on each other with zero concern for who they hit. Criminals still need to be hammered down on hard. Longer sentences and the reduction, or the outright elimination, of all parole for violent criminals is still desperately needed.

[2Cdo]

Thanos Thanos:

Mushy stats being exploited by social liberals won't mean much to the next person who gets their face eaten off by a crackhead. Or the family of someone who gets shot in the head at what should be a safe public gathering by some rotten fuck with a machinegun. Or a baby at a community BBQ who takes a bullet from the local gangsta sociopaths when they open up on each other with zero concern for who they hit. Criminals still need to be hammered down on hard. Longer sentences and the reduction, or the outright elimination, of all parole for violent criminals is still desperately needed.

We need more basketball courts and minimum wage jobs for these misguided people. It's not their fault.

[fifeboy]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

But wait! We still need to spend billions more on new jails and more armed citizens....don't we???

Oh yeah, right. Just typical of you Dipper/liberal lovers. These stats don't include REAL UNREPORTED CRIME which is on the rise. Just yesterday I saw a grandmother not clean up after her dog and it had SHIT ON THE SIDEWALK. Jay walkers flourish and my neighbor has dandelions in his yard. If myself and the other Rightous were allowed to arm ourselves this horrendous situation would be MADE RIGHT.

[Lemmy]

The term "crime RATE" is also somewhat deceiving, if population goes up by 2% and the number of crimes goes up by 1%, the crime rate fell, even though there's more crime. Violent crime, specifically gun crime, has not gotten better and we clearly need a comprehensive plan to fight this problem. This report is encouraging, but says little about the biggest crime problems in our country: guns and gangs.

[2Cdo]

Lemmy Lemmy:

The term "crime RATE" is also somewhat deceiving, if population goes up by 2% and the number of crimes goes up by 1%, the crime rate fell, even though there's more crime. Violent crime, specifically gun crime, has not gotten better and we clearly need a comprehensive plan to fight this problem. This report is encouraging, but says little about the biggest crime problems in our country: guns and gangs.

Well said!

[bootlegga]

fifeboy fifeboy:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

But wait! We still need to spend billions more on new jails and more armed citizens....don't we???

Oh yeah, right. Just typical of you Dipper/liberal lovers. These stats don't include REAL UNREPORTED CRIME which is on the rise. Just yesterday I saw a grandmother not clean up after her dog and it had SHIT ON THE SIDEWALK. Jay walkers flourish and my neighbor has dandelions in his yard. If myself and the other Rightous were allowed to arm ourselves this horrendous situation would be MADE RIGHT.

[2Cdo]

fifeboy fifeboy:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

But wait! We still need to spend billions more on new jails and more armed citizens....don't we???

Oh yeah, right. Just typical of you Dipper/liberal lovers. These stats don't include REAL UNREPORTED CRIME which is on the rise. Just yesterday I saw a grandmother not clean up after her dog and it had SHIT ON THE SIDEWALK. Jay walkers flourish and my neighbor has dandelions in his yard. If myself and the other Rightous were allowed to arm ourselves this horrendous situation would be MADE RIGHT.

[andyt]

Lemmy Lemmy:

The term "crime RATE" is also somewhat deceiving, if population goes up by 2% and the number of crimes goes up by 1%, the crime rate fell, even though there's more crime. Violent crime, specifically gun crime, has not gotten better and we clearly need a comprehensive plan to fight this problem. This report is encouraging, but says little about the biggest crime problems in our country: guns and gangs.

To say that total crime needs to go down even with increasing population seems over the top as a definition of crime going down.

But if what you say is true, that violent crime isn't going down, then obviously have nothing to pat ourselves on the back about.

But it seems you're wrong:

$1:

Police report the largest drop in violent crime severity since 1999

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2 ... eng.htm#a4 Toronto had the same crime rate as the average for Canada. Winnipeg, Saskatoon and Regina had by far the highest.

Also:

$1:

Homicide rate reaches its lowest point since the mid–1960s

Ontario had a homicide rate equal to the average of the country, <2/100,000, while Nunavut had the highest at 18/100,000. Thunder Bay did have the highest rate for cities. Must be all those black people living there.


Lots of data at that link I gave.

[BeaverFever]

$1:

Winnipeg, Saskatoon and Regina had by far the highest.

http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/magazine/ma96/alacarte.asp
Hmm...yet another hole poked in the gun ownership theory?

[peck420]

How about we try again with some semi recent data:
*whoops, linked the number of licenses, not the number of fire arms...corrected now.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/facts-faits/archives/quick_facts/2012/reg-ju2012-eng.pdf

[raydan]

peck420 peck420:

How about we try again with some semi recent data:
*whoops, linked the number of licenses, not the number of fire arms...corrected now.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/facts-faits/archives/quick_facts/2012/reg-ju2012-eng.pdf

That's only for licensed firearms... we all know you westerners never registered them.

Besides, that graph's for Restricted and Prohibited Firearms only.

[andyt]

My data are from 2010. You saying that's not recent enough?

[peck420]

Well, since I am no good at linking to the chart I want, you get the whole dataset :

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/facts-faits/index-eng.htm

andyt, my reference to out dated data was in regards to BeaverFever's 1996 image.