[Newsbot]

Title: Another green energy firm closes in Windsor
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: OnTheIce
Date: 2012-05-11 11:13:26
Canadian

[DrCaleb]

The environmental movement won't let us have fission reactors, but they aren't buying green energy to compensate?

[sandorski]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

The environmental movement won't let us have fission reactors, but they aren't buying green energy to compensate?

Wut?

There will be a lot of failures along the way. That's just the way these things go.

[martin14]

At least this one didnt cost the taxpayer 3 million.

[Regina]

No money in Green unless the govt gives it to them.

[Zipperfish]

Oil is spretty heavily subsidized too.

[Regina]

Unfortunately the cheapest form of energy.

[jeff744]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Oil is spretty heavily subsidized too.

More to keep prices down than anything.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Oil is spretty heavily subsidized too.

Oil does a helluva lot more than just produce hydro too.
And at least oil fired plants can give a basline generation, unlike solar and wind.
McGuinty's energy policy in Ontario has so far been an unmitigated disaster.
Ontario Power Group is hemorrhaging money because of the turbines, and OPG doesn't even own or operate the turbines. The turbines are losing money as well as they help to contribute to the massive over-generation of hydro that basically gets dumped.
Pre-turbines, Ontario's power generation was 75% emissions-free. With the turbines, power generation is still 75% emissions-free.
The only thing the turbines here have mananged to do is cost the taxpayer large in both taxes AND higher hydro rates while killing the industrial sector.
So I guess in the latter respect, the turbines have reduced Ontario's over-all CO2 emissions.

[Zipperfish]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

The environmental movement won't let us have fission reactors, but they aren't buying green energy to compensate?

Baloney. There's been a strong right Conservative government in power federally for several years now, as well as a strong-right government in power in Laberta for decades. Environmentalists are, as a lobby, weaker than they have been since the 60s. You're head-stomping a corpse.

Alberta policy is that power generation is driven by the private sector.

[DrCaleb]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

The environmental movement won't let us have fission reactors, but they aren't buying green energy to compensate?

Baloney. There's been a strong right Conservative government in power federally for several years now, as well as a strong-right government in power in Laberta for decades. Environmentalists are, as a lobby, weaker than they have been since the 60s. You're head-stomping a corpse.

Alberta policy is that power generation is driven by the private sector.

And when Bruce Power proposed (a really dumb location for) a new reactor in Alberta, they gave up because of all the environmental opposition. Private sector strikes again!

You do know, by the way, that "Reform Party" Preston Manning is one of the biggest Environmentalists in Canada? Right/Left/Conservative/Liberal has little to 'environmentalism'.

http://www.corporateknights.com/article ... on-manning

[sandorski]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

The environmental movement won't let us have fission reactors, but they aren't buying green energy to compensate?

Baloney. There's been a strong right Conservative government in power federally for several years now, as well as a strong-right government in power in Laberta for decades. Environmentalists are, as a lobby, weaker than they have been since the 60s. You're head-stomping a corpse.

Alberta policy is that power generation is driven by the private sector.

And when Bruce Power proposed (a really dumb location for) a new reactor in Alberta, they gave up because of all the environmental opposition. Private sector strikes again!

You do know, by the way, that "Reform Party" Preston Manning is one of the biggest Environmentalists in Canada? Right/Left/Conservative/Liberal has little to 'environmentalism'.

http://www.corporateknights.com/article ... on-manning

Opposition /:= Environmentalists

[BartSimpson]

I'm getting nothing but giggles at the trials of 'green power' down here in the USA.

Start with the billions in defaulted Federal loans on the books now as one major green firm after another goes under.

Hybrid cars are a flop with only 35% of hybrid owners opting to replace those hybrids with another hyrbid. Electric cars aren't even that good where General Motors has an estimated 140,000 to 300,000 unsold Chevy Volt cars in storage. Look for another GM bankruptcy when those cars can't be floated on the books anymore.

Then there's the wind projects that are being opposed by environmentalists for being a blight on the landscape, for slaughtering migratory birds and birds of prey en masse, and now the wind farms are being denounced because the turbine blades that are made out of carbon composites are not recyclable and have to be disposed of as toxic waste when they wear out.

The solar projects are running afoul of the enviro crowd because they take up space in the deserts which, of course, are 'delicate ecosystems' that are home to endangered critters like the Desert Tortoise and, of course, solar panels are made from stuff that is highly toxic and cannot be recycled.

Yep, it would all be fine entertainment were it not for the fact that all of this BS is costing so much taxpayer money.

[DrCaleb]

sandorski sandorski:

Opposition /:= Environmentalists

One of the main 'opposers' was Susan, who runs Vive Le Canada. She and lots of others in Peace River were opposing it because the location for the new reactors was right beside a well used and beautiful Provincial park.

Opposition = Environmentalists.

I didn't like the location, because it was hundreds of km from where the power would be needed (Fort Mac) and hundreds more from any major cities, where we could turn off the coal power plants and use cleaner Neutrons. And it was beside a Provincial park. The line losses from transmission could have powered a small town alone.

[QBall]

martin14 martin14:

At least this one didnt cost the taxpayer 3 million.

Or $535 million.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/white-hou ... 7Jb3VKDl8E

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