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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:49 am
 


Title: Orca death possibly linked to Canadian war games
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Date: 2012-04-09 07:43:42
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:50 am
 


I heard something about this a week or so ago, but they were blaming the U.S Navy.

Is it possible this whale was hit by a passing ship?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:14 am
 


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:21 am
 


1Peg 1Peg:
I heard something about this a week or so ago, but they were blaming the U.S Navy.

Is it possible this whale was hit by a passing ship?


From what little I have heard, the internal damage was substantial, but didn't allow for an actual physical contact between whale and ship. The damage suggested it was either acoustic or hydrostatic.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:39 am
 


Shit happens I suppose, unless this becomes a constant problem I don't see why it needs to be an issue.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:27 am
 


Gunnair Gunnair:
1Peg 1Peg:
I heard something about this a week or so ago, but they were blaming the U.S Navy.

Is it possible this whale was hit by a passing ship?


From what little I have heard, the internal damage was substantial, but didn't allow for an actual physical contact between whale and ship. The damage suggested it was either acoustic or hydrostatic.



Either way, it's sad to see such a magnificent animal die like that. We can only move on and learn from this. :-)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:37 am
 


Somebody may wear it if it turns out to be military related. I can't imagine it was an explosion - there are no weapons ranges within the SJDF and the only explosives used there (in the Constance Bank area) would be scare charges, and I can't see those causing much damage unless you drop it beside the creature.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:37 am
 


It would be, beyond awesome, if the sea shepard dickwads tried to come after the RCN.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:39 am
 


Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
Shit happens I suppose, unless this becomes a constant problem I don't see why it needs to be an issue.


Orcas are endangered.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:47 am
 


They are on the endangered list in the US, but the IUCN is still debating if they are endangered or just threatened. Still one dead Orca isnt enough to alarm me, if this is something that happened more often with military exercises (like 1 in 20 exercises results in a dead whale) then I would be very concerned.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:54 am
 


Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
They are on the endangered list in the US, but the IUCN is still debating if they are endangered or just threatened. Still one dead Orca isnt enough to alarm me, if this is something that happened more often with military exercises (like 1 in 20 exercises results in a dead whale) then I would be very concerned.


From a personal point I view I could understand that, but from a professional point of view (i.e. CF) I would expect it to be a point of concern. The CF does not really need anymore negative press these days and something like this does not end at resonating with the local Greenpeace/WWF groups here. Orcas are a significant tourist attraction generating a lot of cash for the Island and they are a very sympathetic symbol of the Pacific Northwest. This gets traction with the common man as it were which is why the CF should be concerned to ensure it indeed was not one of our assets that did this.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:04 am
 


I agree, there is a lack of due diligence by not have a Canadian investigation team.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:17 am
 


1Peg 1Peg:
Gunnair Gunnair:
1Peg 1Peg:
I heard something about this a week or so ago, but they were blaming the U.S Navy.

Is it possible this whale was hit by a passing ship?


From what little I have heard, the internal damage was substantial, but didn't allow for an actual physical contact between whale and ship. The damage suggested it was either acoustic or hydrostatic.



Either way, it's sad to see such a magnificent animal die like that. We can only move on and learn from this. :-)


Hopefully. I don't know how much it's being heard outside of the PNW, but it's getting a lot of unfortunate attention here from both sides of the border. Killing Orcas ain't like killing a deer as I've outlined to Guy - they are a big tourist attraction here and a very important symbol.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:37 pm
 


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:40 pm
 


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