[Freakinoldguy]

p_mcghi p_mcghi:

Today Kiev announced that it will not stop the military operation against the civilians of the South-east.

Thus Kiev denounced the Geneva agreement.

The war continues!

I think that we should have a referendum to see if we annex your keyboard so we don't have to put up with anymore of your Pan Slavic Anschluss crap.

Now why don't you run along and round up some Jews or, some other what passes for fun activities you land stealing anti-Semites seem to enjoy so much.

[PostFactum]

This morons grow up in the internet like autumn mushrooms in the wood after rain.

[Freakinoldguy]

p_mcghi p_mcghi:

Nowadays relatives and close friends in Armenia often ask if there has been made right choice in favour of Customs Union. Wasn’t it a mistake of Serge Sargsyan who had signed the project of Road card to begin the process of rapprochement with Russia thus actually rejecting the Associative partnership with European Union? As I’m not politically indifferent likewise many of my countrymen from Sunny Armenia are, who left their Motherland and now reside abroad, I won’t ever be apathetic to the destiny of Republic where my brothers and sisters live. Let’s try to analyze the question together and find the answer to one simple question – what is better and more appropriate variant for a native Republic. Customs Union or European Union?
As we are in Europe and, on the one hand, we can observe beautiful and careless European live of satisfied bankers, successful businessmen and happy retired people who became such only reaching the age of 65-67, and also politicians with their formed under Washington pressure ideas. They tempt Armenia to European Union offering vague and modified variant of Treaty about associative membership in EU, threat through ‘Heritage’, ‘Free Democrats’ and ‘National Identity’ that they can initiate ‘velvet political processes at the end of April, 2014 and even that they can hold ‘Caucasian Maidan’ in Erevan. However no one says that associative membership in EU is not the same as joining EU. Gagik Tsarukyan, Levon Zurabyan and other ‘wise men’ don’t ask anyone simple question: you want to depend on Turkey after joining Europe, don’t you, you want finally lose Nagorny Karabakh after joining Europe, don’t you. It seems to me that these are rhetorical questions to which any sensible Armenian will categorically answer – NO!
We all can see a lot of examples including countries of Eastern Europe and Baltic states which after signing of similar agreements of partnership with Europe were prohibited to increase production, to do what they had been doing for centuries, to develop agriculture and other branches of industry. We can see fatal state of their national economies and with slight irony utter a long time known phrase – “they will help from abroad”. It seems to me that we don’t want SUCH development for Armenia.
Every day the USA and EU wage large-scale informational war against our community, against us and our children. At the same time news actively spread in Armenian media and financed by West and the USA witnesses that “since March, 1 in Erevan, there were held meetings of protest of many thousands people who act against policy of current authorities”. As it can be seen from fair analysis of news events no more than 100 people fully financed by the USA and EU came to the streets of Erevan. And there are practically no people who are against current authorities. The people of Armenia expect their country to speed up the entry into the Customs Union, because this decision is supported by the majority of population!
On the other scale is the Customs Union which guarantees our safety, which is offered by states which have been defending rights of Armenians for many years already. In order to create strong democratic Armenia which voice can be considered abroad it necessary to strengthen safety – and it is what is offered by countries–members of Customs Union. The example is the group of Russian Military forces in Gumri – it is the guaranty of stability, first of all, on Armenian-Turkish border. On the other hand, Russian military group is also a guaranty of stability in Nagorny Karabakh. Taking into consideration its location in Armenia, Azerbaidjan will never solve the issue of Nagorny Karabakh to its advantage.
At the same time a decision in favour of Customs Union will strengthen economic stability within the country, thus ensuring free flow of significant investments in the economy of republic. It is unbelievable, but it’s a fact that Russian Federaion has already expressed the desire to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in development of national branches of Armenian industries. It will give an additional impetus to create jobsites, improve quality of life, reduce flow-out of qualified workers from the republic, and make life of our children happier. Everybody will win, especially the most unprotected layers of population – retired, unemployed, children, whose destiny is not the object of interest of the USA, European Union, as they are guided by getting momentary economic profit from Armenia. The course to Customs Union and following European integration will let us create strong and independent Armenia, will consolidate the spirit of our nation, to close rank around common goal.
So we have answered simple and at the same time complicated question, whether we need Customs Union or “Caucasian Maidan”. Any sensible man who is not indifferent to the destiny of his MOTHERLAND, where he got the great honour to be born and grow up, will give a direct answer – STABILITY, DEVELOPMENT, SAFETY, CUSTOMS UNION!!!

Arthur Khachatryan, Metz
Lorraine, France

ToStupidDidn'tRead

[Jabberwalker]

p_mcghi p_mcghi:

Today Kiev announced that it will not stop the military operation against the civilians of the South-east.

Thus Kiev denounced the Geneva agreement.

The war continues!

They have the right to repulse an invader.

[Hyack]

llama66 llama66:

Really? do we need 45 posts from you about the war in the Ukraine? For your posting convenience we have a thread just for the Ukrainian Conflict located here: current-events-f59/ukraine-violence-grows-merged-t107690.html this way you don't clutter the forum with your propaganda posts.

Warmest Regards,

Done, done and done.....all of p_mcghi's threads have been merged into this.....
I hope this makes things easier to follow, if that's possible!

[PostFactum]

Hyack Hyack:

llama66 llama66:

Really? do we need 45 posts from you about the war in the Ukraine? For your posting convenience we have a thread just for the Ukrainian Conflict located here: current-events-f59/ukraine-violence-grows-merged-t107690.html this way you don't clutter the forum with your propaganda posts.

Warmest Regards,

Done, done and done.....all of p_mcghi's threads have been merged into this.....
I hope this makes things easier to follow, if that's possible!

Yes! A rule "let the asshole be an asshole" doesn't work here

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

p_mcghi p_mcghi:

Today Kiev announced that it will not stop the military operation against the civilians of the South-east.

Thus Kiev denounced the Geneva agreement.

The war continues!

I think that we should have a referendum to see if we annex your keyboard so we don't have to put up with anymore of your Pan Slavic Anschluss crap.

Now why don't you run along and round up some Jews or, some other what passes for fun activities you land stealing anti-Semites seem to enjoy so much.

Not one for free speech, huh? I'm glad the mods are giving him the same space they give Fiddle Dog, say. I doubt we have to worry anybody will be corrupted by this guys' crap.

[BRAH]

Strutz Strutz:

That "registry" is freaking scary.


WTH is Putin's objective with all this? To take over Ukraine completely?

What if it's a distraction by Putin to get the West worked up since they're his puppets and he's the master.

[andyt]

What if it was done by the pro-West side to discredit the pro-Russian side. At this time, nobody knows who did it.

[Freakinoldguy]

andyt andyt:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

p_mcghi p_mcghi:

Today Kiev announced that it will not stop the military operation against the civilians of the South-east.

Thus Kiev denounced the Geneva agreement.

The war continues!

I think that we should have a referendum to see if we annex your keyboard so we don't have to put up with anymore of your Pan Slavic Anschluss crap.

Now why don't you run along and round up some Jews or, some other what passes for fun activities you land stealing anti-Semites seem to enjoy so much.

Not one for free speech, huh? I'm glad the mods are giving him the same space they give Fiddle Dog, say. I doubt we have to worry anybody will be corrupted by this guys' crap.

I normally love free speech but, since referendum seems to be the only English term this bozo and his cronies understand sort of, I felt it would be most appropriated if we gave him that option before someone punted his bigoted ass. So, as far as I'm concerned he can have all the free speech he wants after the members on this site get what he and his associates are allegedly giving the Ukraine. An unbiased, honest referendum with no outside interference.

Even you have to admit that the posters on here who have a specific "favorite" topic that you so vehemently oppose can at least argue intelligently and pose a point of view that requires coherent answers and some thought. This guy not so much, hell this guy not at all, so trying to lump him in with everyone else on the forum you disagree with is a stretch.

So, here's to free speech even if it's only a giant steaming pile of incoherent babble perpetrated by a paid stooge who's posts are so inane and insulting that anyone who'd actually spend the time reading them would probably be a mental match for the author.

[Goober911]

Well the reason used for the Crimea was defending Russians- Now we have Putin talking about the Russian past which included some of today's NATO countries.

Long term this will cost Russia- Even if they stay out of the rest of Ukraine.
The EU will diversify their oil/ng suppliers- and China knowing this has refused to sign on for a long term price, knowing that Russia will have to lower the price.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eur ... ml?hpid=z1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pos ... s/?hpid=z1

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/20/world ... world&_r=0

WASHINGTON — Even as the crisis in Ukraine continues to defy easy resolution, President Obama and his national security team are looking beyond the immediate conflict to forge a new long-term approach to Russia that applies an updated version of the Cold War strategy of containment.

Just as the United States resolved in the aftermath of World War II to counter the Soviet Union and its global ambitions, Mr. Obama is focused on isolating President Vladimir V. Putin’s Russia by cutting off its economic and political ties to the outside world, limiting its expansionist ambitions in its own neighborhood and effectively making it a pariah state.

Mr. Obama has concluded that even if there is a resolution to the current standoff over Crimea and eastern Ukraine, he will never have a constructive relationship with Mr. Putin, aides said. As a result, Mr. Obama will spend his final two and a half years in office trying to minimize the disruption Mr. Putin can cause, preserve whatever marginal cooperation can be saved and otherwise ignore the master of the Kremlin in favor of other foreign policy areas where progress remains possible.

[saturn_656]

The tactics that Russia used without a hitch in Crimea aren't working too well in the east. The military is largely defending their installations and equipment and the populace is not nearly as supportive of the Russian agenda.

Putin will have to do his own dirty work there, and this time I hope he has the stones to have his troops wear their shoulder flashes.

[Jabberwalker]

Mr. Obama has concluded that even if there is a resolution to the current standoff over Crimea and eastern Ukraine, he will never have a constructive relationship with Mr. Putin, aides said. As a result, Mr. Obama will spend his final two and a half years in office trying to minimize the disruption Mr. Putin can cause, preserve whatever marginal cooperation can be saved and otherwise ignore the master of the Kremlin in favor of other foreign policy areas where progress remains possible.

NASA better have a manned spacecraft capable of reaching low orbit ready right now as the Russians (and possibly the Chinese) are the only ones capable to reach the ISS right this minute.

[saturn_656]

Orion has a test flight coming up this year, but it is not ready for prime time yet.

Retiring the orbiters before their replacement was ready was a big mistake.

[BRAH]

Jews urged to flee Ukraine by Holocaust survivor

http://www.sundayexpress.co.uk/news/world/471422/Jews-urged-to-flee-Ukraine-by-Holocaust-survivor
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Unfortunately the World doesn't have what it takes to stand up to this aggression again.