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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:47 pm
 


Well they have more pressing issues at the moment to worry about like trying to rebuild the place which pretty much was flattened by operation cast lead and then put in a choke hold by the blockade.

http://gaza-strophe.cinemeteque.com/eng/

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:28 pm
 


desertdude desertdude:
Personally I would like not to see ugly fat ass women wearing tank tops or flip flops in public.


Feel free to gouge out your eyes if it preserves your holiness from the sight of these women. But force them to wear a bag, even the ugliest of them, and you have no place in our culture.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:03 pm
 


desertdude desertdude:
Well that's just you then isn't it. You like ugly ass women, I dont :wink:


There is an old saying that goes something like ... its not the face your f-----g its the f-----g your facing..but in your case it doesn't matter ..with a bag over their heads they could be male or have a beard who would be the wiser?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:05 pm
 


But then you should really check them out.... when you marry them when they are six...things change over time right?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:07 am
 


Yawn ! there we go again, I was wondering when this would start the same old cliched and stereo typical shit repeated over and over again. Any one one of you lumberjacks can't keep an agrument it goes back to shit slinging. What, is it in the moron's guide on how to hold a discussion. Chap 7 When you have no logical reasoning left ( Which unfortunately doesn't take very long here )resort to shit slinging. :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:29 am
 


desertdude desertdude:
Well they have more pressing issues at the moment to worry about like trying to rebuild the place which pretty much was flattened by operation cast lead and then put in a choke hold by the blockade.

http://gaza-strophe.cinemeteque.com/eng/

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So why then are they worried about lingerie and whether or not a woman
smokes a shisha ?


Thanks for showing us just how fucked up the priorities of Hamas are.


Even you agree with it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:01 pm
 


Yes I do agree about Hamas


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:52 pm
 


desertdude desertdude:
Yawn ! there we go again, I was wondering when this would start the same old cliched and stereo typical shit repeated over and over again. Any one one of you lumberjacks can't keep an agrument it goes back to shit slinging. What, is it in the moron's guide on how to hold a discussion. Chap 7 When you have no logical reasoning left ( Which unfortunately doesn't take very long here )resort to shit slinging. :roll:


From a Muslim woman who thinks you have your head in the sand.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/shaista-gohir

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The hypocrisy of child abuse in many Muslim countries

By Shaista Gohir

Some Muslims are fond of condemning western morality – alcoholism, nudity, premarital sex and homosexuality often being cited as examples. But Muslims do not have a monopoly on morality. In the west, child marriages and sex with children are illegal. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for many Muslim countries.

I recently saw the documentary on the Dancing Boys of Afghanistan. It exposed an ancient custom called "bacha bazi" (boy for play), where rich men buy boys as young as 11 from impoverished families for sexual slavery. The boys are dressed in women's clothes and made to dance and sing at parties, before being carted away by the men for sex. Owning boys is considered a symbol of status and one former warlord boasted of having up to 3,000 boys over a 20-year period, even though he was married, with two sons. The involvement of the police and inaction of the government means this form of child prostitution is widespread.

The moral hypocrisy is outrageous in a country where homosexuality is not only strictly forbidden but savagely punished, even between two consenting adults. However, men who sodomise young boys are not considered homosexuals or paedophiles. The love of young boys is not a phenomenon restricted to Afghanistan; homosexual pederasty is common in neighbouring Pakistan, too. In my view, repression of sexuality and extreme gender apartheid is to blame.

And in the Middle East, it's young girls who are considered desirable and men are able to satisfy their lusts legally through child marriages. In Yemen, more than a quarter of girls are married before the age of 15. Cases of girls dying during childbirth are not unusual, and recently, one 12-year-old child bride even died from internal bleeding following sexual intercourse. In another case, a 12-year-old girl was married to an 80-year-old man in Saudi Arabia.

So why is the practice of child marriage sanctioned in Muslim countries? Unfortunately, ultra-conservative religious authorities justify this old tribal custom by citing the prophet Muhammad's marriage to Aisha. They allege Aisha was nine years old when the prophet married her. But they focus conveniently on selected Islamic texts to support their opinions, while ignoring vast number of other texts and historical information, which suggests Aisha was much older, putting her age of marriage at 19. Child marriage is against Islam as the Qur'an is clear that intellectual maturity is the basis for deciding age of marriage, and not puberty, as suggested by these clerics.

Whatever one's view on the prophet's marriage, no faith can claim moral superiority since child marriages have been practised in various cultures and societies across the world at one time or another. In modern times, though, marrying children is no longer acceptable and no excuse should be used to justify this.

I find the false adherence to Islamic principles and the "holier than thou" attitude of some Muslim societies similar to the blatant hypocrisy and double standards of 19th-century Victorian Britain, where the outward appearance of dignity and prudishness camouflaged an extreme prevalence of sexual and moral depravity behind closed doors. In those days, too, there were many men willing to pay to have sex with children – until a plethora of social movements arose that resulted in changes in laws and attitudes in society.

A similar shift in social attitudes is also required in traditional Muslim societies. Having boy sex slaves or child brides should not be seen as badges of honour. Instead, Muslims need to do more to attach shame to such practices; otherwise, acceptance of this behaviour will make them complicit in the sexual exploitation of children. I fail to understand why Muslims are so vocal on abuses by the west in Abu Ghraib, Guantánamo, Iraq and Afghanistan, but display moral blindness when it comes to children? It's about time this silence was broken, so these violations of innocence can be stopped.

A too-passive attitude in dealing with child abuse has rubbed off on Muslim communities in Britain, too. I have heard many stories at first hand of child sexual abuse and rape, which show that the issue is not being addressed at all. Those who have had the courage to speak out have been met with reactions of denial and shame. Such attitudes mean that children will continue to suffer in silence. Sexual abuse of children happens in all communities, as has been revealed by the recent Catholic church scandal. At least, they have finally started to take action. Muslim communities should learn from this and also start being more open, instead of continuing to sweeping the issue under the carpet.

I am finding that more and more Muslims feel it is their duty to criticise others for actions they consider sinful – quoting the following popular saying of Muhammad to justify their interference:

"If you see something wrong, you should correct it with your hand and if you are unable to, then speak out against it and if you cannot do that, then feel that it is wrong in your heart."

I wonder how, then, Muslims can remain silent when it comes to the sexual abuse of children?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:06 pm
 


So see if you can find Dispatch's "Britian's Witch Children" documentary and see how Christians are treating their own children.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:20 pm
 


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So see if you can find Dispatch's "Britian's Witch Children" documentary and see how Christians are treating their own children.


That's not a 'Christian' problem, that's another problem with the politically correct and culturally sensitive UK being incapable of making immigrants assimilate into their culture. Just the same as I say Muslims need to assimilate into British culture so, too, do these African animistic-Christians. And if they don't want to assimilate then take their children away from them and kick the ignorant adults back to whence they came from.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:24 pm
 


Bart it is a problem in the states. I would point you to the documentary Jesus camp on that one.

Any culture that allows childhood indoctrination by highly religious groups is setting themselves up to enable a world of hatred and prejudice.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:11 pm
 


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Bart it is a problem in the states. I would point you to the documentary Jesus camp on that one.

Any culture that allows childhood indoctrination by highly religious groups is setting themselves up to enable a world of hatred and prejudice.


And any culture that prohibits it tends to be an example of hatred and prejudice.

The thing is to expect those highly religious people to abide by the law of the nation in which they reside and to expect them not to attempt to force their way of life on anyone else.

If the 'Jesus Camp' people want to do their thing lawfully it's none of my business. Ditto that with the Muslims or anyone else.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:49 pm
 


I do have a problem with it though because often these groups over time will attempt to exert their influence to make the rest of us follow their beliefs. It's true in the middle east and it's certainly becoming the case with the Republican party in the states.

I have no problem with moderate religion which is what 99% of people follow. It's the groups like the ones in the middle east and America that make the other 3 billion of us who have our heads on without any religion want to go "whoa whoa whoa! What the heck are you doing!".

I would like to assert Bart rather then a culture prohibiting freedom of religion that a culture sets clear lines to separate religion from leadership and politics so that a theocracy cannot occur. The states has the opposite of that separation right now in many public offices.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:52 pm
 


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It's the groups like the ones in the middle east and America that make the other 3 billion of us who have our heads on without any religion

[huh]
You make it sound that over half the world's population are atheists, when in truth 53% of the world's population claims to follow Christianity, Islam and Judaism alone. If you total in Hinduism, Buddhism and all the other smaller faiths, you'll find 85 - 90% of the world professes some type of religious belief. Only about 10 - 15% of the world's population considers itself to be non religious. Then there are those who characterize themselves as being spiritual, but not religious. Seems most people in the world are able to reconcile their religious beliefs with the doctrine of live and let live

Of those you deride for their religious belief, only about 5 - 10 % can be identified as the types you seem to paint all religious believers as being.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:35 pm
 


desertdude desertdude:
Any one one of you lumberjacks can't keep an agrument it goes back to shit slinging.



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