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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:58 pm
 


I cited all these examples where this same phrase is used in the same way and no one objected about that. It wasn't a racist phrase then and it isn't now.

No reason to apologise because it's not a racist phrase. The fact that the speaker of the house didn't object shows that the phrase was not racist.

If Jennings took offence, then she can approch Poilievre and they can discuss it like mature adults. .. but that won't happen because this isn't about hurt feelings but about re-enforcing a lie and distracting the media.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:06 pm
 


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Actually an apology is just what is called for. In fact often in society we apologize for inadvertently offending people. We do it at work, with friends, in relationships, and in society in general. Once at work 2 of my coworkers were discussing her son and his inquisitive nature. Specifically she talked about how he liked to investigate every little thing. I made the comment "sounds very ferret-like". She got quite upset. Turns out her son is a special needs child and she was very sensitive about him. I didn't mean offence and my comment wasn't insulting yet offence was taken. I apologized and explained my words and that was that.

I have no doubt that were this a Liberal there would be conservatives calling for his head like they did for Kinsella. All this guy has to do is offer an apology.


And you've got to wonder about what kind of person who strenuously objects to simply offering an apology for misspeaking. It'll be interesting to see if these partisan hacks take the same approach when it's a party of another stripe.


Remember the stink the con hacks here made over Iggy's aide talking about cat and Chinese restaurants? Then it was unforgivable, but when it's their own guy, hey, it was just a misunderstanding...


Hey don't count me in on the 'bad con' label either!

The cat thing was silly and this tar baby thing is silly too.

These are supposed to be professionals and it's quite obvious that both parties have a large majority of idiots on the benches and in the backrooms. Only the partisan Libs and Tories could say any otherwise.

I'll not defend the indefensible. But there do appear to be people on both sides of the forum who will.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:07 pm
 


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The offended MP was black and therefore has a different opinion. How are you not being offensive when you claim she is doing it only for political gain rather then because she was truly offended?


Posturing. Nothing more. She should get a dictionary.

Frankly, you're too stupid for words. Time for ignore.


I've found the ignore function to work rather well mate. Same subject too.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:09 pm
 


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I cited all these examples where this same phrase is used in the same way and no one objected about that. It wasn't a racist phrase then and it isn't now.

No reason to apologise because it's not a racist phrase. The fact that the speaker of the house didn't object shows that the phrase was not racist.

If Jennings took offence, then she can approch Poilievre and they can discuss it like mature adults. .. but that won't happen because this isn't about hurt feelings but about re-enforcing a lie and distracting the media.


Again, there is a reason. I've already stated why you do such things in society.

YOU said it was racist and insulting to all chinese immigrants over a simply error. Certainly nothing like that was intended, however an apology was warranted.

The fact that you guys are bending over backward to avoid it simply shows a lack of class and tact.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:10 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
DerbyX DerbyX:
The offended MP was black and therefore has a different opinion. How are you not being offensive when you claim she is doing it only for political gain rather then because she was truly offended?


Posturing. Nothing more. She should get a dictionary.

Frankly, you're too stupid for words. Time for ignore.


name calling eh? :roll:


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:01 pm
 


The only problem here is that the opposition doesn't realize the term "tar baby" has a legitimate definition. His use of the term was correct, it's not his problem the opposition wants to jump to conclusions.


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OnTheIce OnTheIce:
DerbyX DerbyX:
The offended MP was black and therefore has a different opinion. How are you not being offensive when you claim she is doing it only for political gain rather then because she was truly offended?


Posturing. Nothing more. She should get a dictionary.

Frankly, you're too stupid for words. Time for ignore.


I've found the ignore function to work rather well mate. Same subject too.


It's unbearable to read those posts. So happy to have the "foes" feature!


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:11 pm
 


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The only problem here is that the opposition doesn't realize the term "tar baby" has a legitimate definition. His use of the term was correct, it's not his problem the opposition wants to jump to conclusions.


Actually I find the problem is that somebody was genuinely offended who could have been promptly given an apology. It happens everyday in life. You offend somebody without meaning to and you apologize. Sure you can blow them off and state "I didn't mean anything by it" but the proper thing to do would be apologize, at least in polite society.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:12 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:

It's unbearable to read those posts. So happy to have the "foes" feature!


We Liberals think the same about the partisan crap you spew all the time too. :roll:

No problem reciprocating then.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:24 pm
 


I don't block anyone. I find you all so very interesting. :D


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:30 pm
 


DerbyX DerbyX:
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The only problem here is that the opposition doesn't realize the term "tar baby" has a legitimate definition. His use of the term was correct, it's not his problem the opposition wants to jump to conclusions.


Actually I find the problem is that somebody was genuinely offended who could have been promptly given an apology. It happens everyday in life. You offend somebody without meaning to and you apologize. Sure you can blow them off and state "I didn't mean anything by it" but the proper thing to do would be apologize, at least in polite society.


You can be the first Liberal then to send an apology to Deb Grey for what Doug Young said to her. I'm fairly sure none of your jerk buddies back on the mothership bothered to do so except maybe as a direct order from the Speaker of the House.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:33 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
I don't block anyone. I find you all so very interesting. :D


There is a lot less interesting nowadays though.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:35 pm
 


DerbyX DerbyX:
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I don't block anyone. I find you all so very interesting. :D


There is a lot less interesting nowadays though.

Unfortunately yes.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:54 pm
 


'bout time we returned all these words like gay, tar baby, back into the fold of correct meaning, so the the PC half wits end up legless. Oh sorry cannot use the the words half wit and legless someone may apply racial connotations.

Or better yet ban teacups, then no storms can form inside one.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:57 pm
 


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'bout time we returned all these words like gay, tar baby, back into the fold of correct meaning, so the the PC half wits end up legless. Oh sorry cannot use the the words half wit and legless someone may apply racial connotations.

Or better yet ban teacups, then no storms can form inside one.


Well said plugs.


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