[fifeboy]

Axeman Axeman:

As for it "working in the past", that's not always true. "New Deal" Government spending in the 1930s made the situation much worse and turned what MAY have been a minor recession into a massive depression. We shall see what this round of government waste brings us.

On thing the New Deal did was get some very angry, out of work young men off the streets. Send them to work building dams in the TVA or the Hoover Dam. Get them to building or improving roads. Of course that was not a "solution" to the problem, but it got some really angry young guys into doing something useful. The war came along and they all went into the army.

[romanP]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I have more than a few people asking me to run for Congress in 2010 and, trust me, if I get into Congress I will make Rove, Coulter, O'Reilly and Rush look like liberals.

So, you're going to ape Hitler?

That's about the only way you could possibly do worse than that bunch.

[Pseudonym]

Axeman Axeman:

Exactly. His "recruitment" practices sniff an aweful lot like those the Nazis, KKK and other white supremicist groups, cults and their ilk. You begin by creating "us" and "them" and follow up with the snake-oil schpeel.

How so? "Recruitment" practices? None of your connections are making any sense.

[BartSimpson]

romanP romanP:

So, you're going to ape Hitler?

Yes, I'm going to put all the Jews into death camps.

Now would you care to post an intelligent comment?

[Pseudonym]

romanP romanP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I have more than a few people asking me to run for Congress in 2010 and, trust me, if I get into Congress I will make Rove, Coulter, O'Reilly and Rush look like liberals.

So, you're going to ape Hitler?

That's about the only way you could possibly do worse than that bunch.

Portraying Hitler as a right-wing fellow demonstrates a complete misunderstanding of the spectrum involved in modern day politics. So would portraying him as a left-wing fellow for that matter.

[Pseudonym]

Scape Scape:

What of Rohm's charge that Rush was the defacto head of the GOP? With Steele on bended knee publicly the GOP has made Emanuel's point plain. Steele is now Rush's butt boy now because his leadership has been publicly emasculated. He has no credibility.

video of the GOP Butt boy

I like how liberals beg and plead for some sort of apology from the conservative movement, and when someone finally cracks, they rip up the rest of the movement. And then when the person tries to draw back from their mistake, they get ripped up some more. Can the liberals even criticize the conservative any more on something substantial? And can they not try to co-opt our own terms in their pitiful attempts at criticism?

[Scape]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Actually, what we've seen is the fallout of well-meaning regulations that were turned on their head by greedy, self-serving pricks from Wall Street.

De-regulation, oddly, would've restored the accountability the banks used to have for their lending practices.

The men who got millions while the banks lost Billions

When capitalism becomes cannibalism then it is not regulation but lack of regulation that is the culprit. Capitalism gone wild will eat itself. Where are the Bankers bonuses coming from? The wake of their own gargantuan losses! In Canada we are sitting pretty with the best banking system in the world. We may quibble about them making obscene profit but we know the banks will weather this storm. They get to be profitable with regulations. What deregulation has made the US system stable?

[Scape]

Pseudonym Pseudonym:

Scape Scape:

What of Rohm's charge that Rush was the defacto head of the GOP? With Steele on bended knee publicly the GOP has made Emanuel's point plain. Steele is now Rush's butt boy now because his leadership has been publicly emasculated. He has no credibility.

video of the GOP Butt boy

I like how liberals beg and plead for some sort of apology from the conservative movement, and when someone finally cracks, they rip up the rest of the movement. And then when the person tries to draw back from their mistake, they get ripped up some more. Can the liberals even criticize the conservative any more on something substantial? And can they not try to co-opt our own terms in their pitiful attempts at criticism?

Steele was held to task about his leadership and in his 1st test he folded like a cheap suit. The GOP has become a joke.

[romanP]

Pseudonym Pseudonym:

romanP romanP:

Pseudonym Pseudonym:

Are you implying that you yourself are willfully ignorant and a bigot?

Why would you say that?

You questioned the humanity (i.e. dehumanized) the individual who wrote the page that I posted for our collective amusement. It's a fairly clear connection.

How would that make me willfully ignorant and a bigot?

Questioning the humanity of someone who displays none is not what it means to dehumanise someone. Rush Limbaugh makes no trouble dehumanising himself when he says that potatoes are more important than people (read: women).

To dehumanise someone means to make someone a scapegoat, to make a person or group of people seem undeservedly less than human. Rush Limbaugh, in the video clip that was posted, makes a blatant case of dehumanising and belittling women.

[BartSimpson]

Scape Scape:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Actually, what we've seen is the fallout of well-meaning regulations that were turned on their head by greedy, self-serving pricks from Wall Street.

De-regulation, oddly, would've restored the accountability the banks used to have for their lending practices.

The men who got millions while the banks lost Billions

When capitalism becomes cannibalism then it is not regulation but lack of regulation that is the culprit. Capitalism gone wild will eat itself. Where are the Bankers bonuses coming from? The wake of their own gargantuan losses! In Canada we are sitting pretty with the best banking system in the world. We may quibble about them making obscene profit but we know the banks will weather this storm. They get to be profitable with regulations. What deregulation has made the US system stable?

The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) is a regulation that needs to be repealed in order to restore the banks to their previous levels of fiduciary accountability.

This bit of 'de-regulation' would result in a net re-regulation of the banks which is why I support repealing the CRA.

[romanP]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

romanP romanP:

So, you're going to ape Hitler?

Yes, I'm going to put all the Jews into death camps.

It's no secret that you've spoken at length about your desire for killing all Muslims. So, yeah. About that...

[Pseudonym]

Scape Scape:

Pseudonym Pseudonym:

Scape Scape:

What of Rohm's charge that Rush was the defacto head of the GOP? With Steele on bended knee publicly the GOP has made Emanuel's point plain. Steele is now Rush's butt boy now because his leadership has been publicly emasculated. He has no credibility.

video of the GOP Butt boy

I like how liberals beg and plead for some sort of apology from the conservative movement, and when someone finally cracks, they rip up the rest of the movement. And then when the person tries to draw back from their mistake, they get ripped up some more. Can the liberals even criticize the conservative any more on something substantial? And can they not try to co-opt our own terms in their pitiful attempts at criticism?

Steele was held to task about his leadership and in his 1st test he folded like a cheap suit. The GOP has become a joke.

I am rather disappointed in him for trying to be conciliatory and apologizing for Rush. I had such high hopes.

[romanP]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

De-regulation, oddly, would've restored the accountability the banks used to have for their lending practices.

How does getting rid of laws make anyone more accountable? Deregulation is what got us to this point. The rules for who could receive loan money were wiped out, so any schmuck that wanted a mansion could take out a mortgage, even if they could never hope to pay it back.

[Pseudonym]

romanP romanP:

Pseudonym Pseudonym:

You questioned the humanity (i.e. dehumanized) the individual who wrote the page that I posted for our collective amusement. It's a fairly clear connection.

How would that make me willfully ignorant and a bigot?

1.From your signature:

$1:

belittle and dehumanise that which you do not understand

1.From your statement, page 5:

$1:

I would be ashamed to call myself a human being if I wrote any of that.

1.From another statement, page 5:

$1:

I didn't write that because I advocate doing it. I wrote that as a matter of pointing out the intellectual inadequacies of the willfully ignorant. Attempt to talk to any bigot about any subject in a rational manner, and that is the response you can expect: belittling and dehumanisation of that which it does not understand.

Conclusion: ?

[Pseudonym]

romanP romanP:

How does getting rid of laws make anyone more accountable? Deregulation is what got us to this point. The rules for who could receive loan money were wiped out, so any schmuck that wanted a mansion could take out a mortgage, even if they could never hope to pay it back.

Regulation was created which erased the standard commonsense capitalist rules for loans. Removing said regulation would have prevented such a situation. Removing regulation = deregulation