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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:48 pm
 


lily lily:
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RUEZ!!!!....Knock it off man!!!

I know you're bored, but come on....... :twisted:


Even this coastal girl who lives in the only really important part of the province knows that Dawson Creek isn't all that close to PG.


It isn't?

Maybe by coastal standards it isn't but by northern standards we certainly are.





PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:06 am
 


fifeboy fifeboy:
ziggy ziggy:
Someone must have watched the Wiebo Ludwig movie that I did 3 week's ago.

They should start walking the dogs through all the towns and reserves.
Someone has to have some explosive substance hanging around the garage or woodshed.
Yep, we could arrest every farmer in the country. The ones in Saskatchewan also have weapons of mass destruction---gopher getters! Don't tell GWB :lol:


They use propane for gophers,not explosives.The smart ones use a vac truck.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:28 am
 


ziggy ziggy:
fifeboy fifeboy:
ziggy ziggy:
Someone must have watched the Wiebo Ludwig movie that I did 3 week's ago.

They should start walking the dogs through all the towns and reserves.
Someone has to have some explosive substance hanging around the garage or woodshed.
Yep, we could arrest every farmer in the country. The ones in Saskatchewan also have weapons of mass destruction---gopher getters! Don't tell GWB :lol:


They use propane for gophers,not explosives.The smart ones use a vac truck.

Geeze zig, last time I checked, propane went boom. Was it Toronto? :) And I wasn't saying the gopher getters were the explosives. More like Diesel+fertilizer :cry: And most importantly, are you saying some farmers are dumb???? PDT_Armataz_01_11





PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:44 am
 


Dogs can tell the difference between exploseives like tnt and propane.So if someone happened to have some det caps which are needed to set off anfo laying around,the dogs would find it.They also have devices which can sniff explosives,just ask any blaster who flys how accurate they are.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:02 pm
 


ziggy ziggy:
No,you dont have a clue,just another partisan hack.


So let me guess ..did you hear the word "inbred" as they were dropping you on your head when you were young?

You think the national police force is encapable of pulling off arson...bombings etc. to frame or discredit organizations or people that don't toe the line? It's practically their calling card.

Notice how they have reduced the crime from terrorism too vandalism....that could be a way of covering their butt, should they be responsible. Just think they actually pulled off bombings before...it's not like they are so innocent..they are the prime suspect. All they need now is a ziggy I mean a patsy.Watch it'll probably be some mentally challenged kid. 8O





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So let me guess ..did you hear the word "inbred" as they were dropping you on your head when you were young?

You think the national police force is encapable of pulling off arson...bombings etc. to frame or discredit organizations or people that don't toe the line? It's practically their calling card.

Notice how they have reduced the crime from terrorism too vandalism....that could be a way of covering their butt, should they be responsible. Just think they actually pulled off bombings before...it's not like they are so innocent..they are the prime suspect. All they need now is a ziggy I mean a patsy.Watch it'll probably be some mentally challenged kid. 8O

Hmm when you make your foil hat is the shiny side showing or is the dull side showing?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:35 am
 


EEEk Twins 8O


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EEEk Twins 8O


Did your one brain cell just split into two?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:40 am
 


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lily lily:
QBC QBC:
RUEZ!!!!....Knock it off man!!!

I know you're bored, but come on....... :twisted:


Even this coastal girl who lives in the only really important part of the province knows that Dawson Creek isn't all that close to PG.


It isn't?

Maybe by coastal standards it isn't but by northern standards we certainly are.

Over 400 km's. That's not close by my standards.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:46 am
 


$1:
Kuenzl was critical, however, of officials locking children in the Tomslake school when news of the bombing came out.

He says the community sits in a low-lying area and the heavy gas from the pipeline could have killed youngsters locked in a school.

"They put all the kids inside and then they closed all the ducts and everything. It's like building a giant coffin," Kuenzl said.

"Why wouldn't you just load them up in the bus and get 'em the hell out of here. I think I'd be safer on the roof of my house than I would be inside my house."

This is what people are afraid of... and why who ever is planting these bombs needs to be stopped.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:04 am
 


[quote="bbuddykat"]

Notice how they have reduced the crime from terrorism too vandalism....that could be a way of covering their butt, should they be responsible. Just think they actually pulled off bombings before...it's not like they are so innocent..they are the prime suspect.


Vandalism is the sort of shit you and your 'mature' buddies get up to on a regular night 'just for fun'. Stuff like spray painting OTHER PEOPLE'S property and breaking windows and such. PUTTING PEOPLES LIVES IN DANGER IS NOT VANDALISM!!! WHY IS THAT SO HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND???


http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/ ... 6-sun.html


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:40 am
 


I just wanted to post a few pic's so people can have an appreciation of what we're talking about here. The pic's below are of a line break down in the states. This is a simple break that affected a line which was buried 5 feet under the ground. The pictures below would be nothing compared to what would happen if you bombed a 30" riser (first incident) or hit a header system (second incident) which is only miles away from the main sulphur recover plant at Step Rock.

Again this line was 5 feet under the ground buried under heavy clay which held the pipe down when it did blow out. I'm not sure if any of you have seen what happens when you knock off a valve on a pressurized scuba tank (kind like in the in the movies where the tank goes flying) but to bomb a 30" pipeline operating at 1500 psi at an above ground location would have a similar effect and could possibly rip the pipe out of the ground for miles setting off a chain reaction as it hit each ESD site (emergency shut down) which are normally about a kilometre apart.

What you see here was a result of a tiny crack in the pipe. Keep in mind there was no oxygen available upon the initial blow out. The fire probably didn't start until after, this would not be the case with an above ground explosion.

One thing I should mention here is this type of blow out is much less common in Canada. We have far sticker regulations on pipeline cathotics and corrosion inspection. Also we have better guidelines on the proximity of these lines to residential areas so in most cases their is less danger to the public. We don't however have any rules regarding bombing pipelines other than "don't do it".

This would be the effect of a explosion. The fall out from the sour gas would another issue entirely. At .05% H2S is still potentially fatal depending on how far you are from the site and the volume released.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:08 pm
 


Oh I also forgot to mention that 0.05% H2S is equitant to 500 ppm. In the industry we limit our exposure to 10 ppm or lower, 20 if your wearing a mask. At 100 ppm it knocks out your sense of smell so you can no longer detect it. Any where from 600 to 1000 ppm, make sue you have you will made out because you'll be dead with in 3 to 5 minutes. Even concentrations as low as 200 ppm have been known to kill because your lungs fill with mucus.

From an environmental stand point it has extremely toxic effects because H2S mixed with H2O (water) it creates a mild acid. Not to mention all the dead bambi's (and every other living thing that breaths) that were killed by the respiratory exposure.

*(That and I wanted to bump those pictures up for every one to see :wink: )

Very nasty stuff indeed.


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