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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:57 am
 


Also, unis have harassment policies, same as workplaces. Write whatever you like, but if it impacts people you work or go to school with, maybe the institution has a responsibility here. Again, the comments go beyond being sexist to having an implied threat of harm. As I wrote before, would you still support their free speech if they were making "does this smell like Zyklon B to you" jokes about Jewish students? Or if they were Muslim students joking about which student should lose their head.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:16 pm
 


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Also, unis have harassment policies, same as workplaces. Write whatever you like, but if it impacts people you work or go to school with, maybe the institution has a responsibility here. Again, the comments go beyond being sexist to having an implied threat of harm. As I wrote before, would you still support their free speech if they were making "does this smell like Zyklon B to you" jokes about Jewish students? Or if they were Muslim students joking about which student should lose their head.



Well personally, I don't think it should be against the law to deny the Holocaust, so that puts me on the fringe in Canada, I'll readily admit that. Uttering threats should be (and is) against the law, so that's where I draw my line. yelling Fire in a crowded theatre should be (and is) against the law. I've read what these students printed. It isn't pleasant, but I just don't see the menace in it myself. I never read Charlie Hedbo or whatever, or even heard of it before, but that's not really my kind of humour either, I don't think.


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Well personally, I don't think it should be against the law to deny the Holocaust, so that puts me on the fringe in Canada, I'll readily admit that. Uttering threats should be (and is) against the law, so that's where I draw my line. yelling Fire in a crowded theatre should be (and is) against the law. I've read what these students printed. It isn't pleasant, but I just don't see the menace in it myself. I never read Charlie Hedbo or whatever, or even heard of it before, but that's not really my kind of humour either, I don't think.


Just to be sure you know, yelling fire in a theater was a quote taken from a judgement used to jail anti war WWI protestors. The claim that their anti war publications were criminal and their moral arguments lies meant to cause harm just like lying about a fire in a crowded room.

It's snappy, but oh man it's a terrible ruling to hold up as a reasonable limit of free expression.


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