[EyeBrock]

Curtman Curtman:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

So, you don't want him back but our government are facists because they didn't want him back. Ok then.

Fascist? What?

Whatever Harper wants isn't the issue.



It will be their fault when Omar gets his compensation. I hope they feel it was worth it.

You say you on nobody in Canada wants him back, including you, but you slag off the government for dragging their heels on bringing him back. Pure hypocrisy.

[Curtman]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

You say you on nobody in Canada wants him back, including you, but you slag off the government for dragging their heels on bringing him back. Pure hypocrisy.

Due process is spat upon, and you slag that off. I understand the frustration, but I don't see how dragging their heels did anybody any good. Certainly not us if it shows our enemies that we don't play by the rules either. Not us if he's compensated. He was going to end up back here anyway.

[Zipperfish]

Tricks Tricks:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

SprCForr SprCForr:

Way more loathing than fear.

Same thing really.

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Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

?

Rage is just a shard of glass
Frozen from an unshed tear
Hatred is the shiny pearl
That forms around a grain of fear

"Rage", Blood Clot (my old band. ha ha ha)

[Curtman]

Skurka's Spin: Is Ottawa obliged to take Khadr because he's Canadian?

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Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird appeared on CTV's Question Period and admitted that the Obama administration had placed diplomatic pressure on the Canadian government to transfer Omar Khadr to a Canadian prison. The minister accepted that under Canadian law ''we're pretty obliged to take him back''and that because Khadr is a Canadian citizen, ''he has the right to come back. We didn't have much of a choice... and he's back.''
...
The pressing question shouldn't be why Omar Khadr has been permitted to return to Canada. It is rather the inexplicable reason why diplomatic pressure by the U.S. had to be exerted for the prison transfer to be effected and why the Canadian government attempted to treat its solemn promise as being illusory.

That about sums up my feelings as well.

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In April 2009, the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms made it obligatory for the government to immediately demand Khadr's return. After a hearing before the Federal Court of Appeal produced the same result, the government announced they would argue their case before the Supreme Court of Canada. In January 2010, the Supreme Court ruled that Khadr's constitutional rights had clearly been violated

The conservative's head-in-the-sand approach to all this did us no good, and I'm sure momma Khadr is overjoyed that her son can be a martyr and come home again. Stephen Harper: You got played.

[2Cdo]

Curtman Curtman:

The conservative's head-in-the-sand approach to all this did us no good, and I'm sure momma Khadr is overjoyed that her son can be a martyr and come home again. Stephen Harper: You got played.

Only in the minds of those who would never vote for the Conservatives, those of us who did vote for the Conservatives applaud the effort to avoid taking back this piece of shit.

[Curtman]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Curtman Curtman:

The conservative's head-in-the-sand approach to all this did us no good, and I'm sure momma Khadr is overjoyed that her son can be a martyr and come home again. Stephen Harper: You got played.

Only in the minds of those who would never vote for the Conservatives, those of us who did vote for the Conservatives applaud the effort to avoid taking back this piece of shit.

Will you applaud the compensation as well? They have the case already laid out for them. Even after the supreme court ruled his rights had been violated they ignored the ruling. AFTER that, they agreed to take him back and then pretended that they didn't. 10 years of solitary confinement is probably worth a lot of dollars. Maybe we can make them invest in the economy.

[2Cdo]

Curtman Curtman:

Will you applaud the compensation as well? They have the case already laid out for them. Even after the supreme court ruled his rights had been violated they ignored the ruling. AFTER that, they agreed to take him back and then pretended that they didn't. 10 years of solitary confinement is probably worth a lot of dollars. Maybe we can make them invest in the economy.

Nope, not one nickel. 10 years of confinement for his actions aren't worth any financial reward.

That being said, even if the government took him back immediately he would still launch a lawsuit and get his reward from our ridiculous legal system.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

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The minister accepted that under Canadian law ''we're pretty obliged to take him back''and that because Khadr is a Canadian citizen, ''he has the right to come back. We didn't have much of a choice... and he's back.'

Probably the same goddam argument the Libtards used to go rescue Papa Khadr, and look how well THAT turned out!!

[Curtman]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

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The minister accepted that under Canadian law ''we're pretty obliged to take him back''and that because Khadr is a Canadian citizen, ''he has the right to come back. We didn't have much of a choice... and he's back.'

Probably the same goddam argument the Libtards used to go rescue Papa Khadr, and look how well THAT turned out!!

Yeah, look how well that turned out. He's dead.

[Unsound]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Curtman Curtman:

The conservative's head-in-the-sand approach to all this did us no good, and I'm sure momma Khadr is overjoyed that her son can be a martyr and come home again. Stephen Harper: You got played.

Only in the minds of those who would never vote for the Conservatives, those of us who did vote for the Conservatives applaud the effort to avoid taking back this piece of shit.

I've voted conservative. I've never applauded our government avoiding it's unpleasant responsibilities.

This isn't about that shitstain Omar Khadr, it's about, as Curt said, our government thinking it's ok to pick and choose which Canadian citizens get to be treated as real citizens, and which don't.

[EyeBrock]

I agree with the sentiment of all being treated equally. All animals are equal. I just balk at the sheer hypocrisy of Curts views.

You can't vehemently oppose Khadr coming back then oppose the government for not doing enough to bring him to Canada.

It's a point of view that lacks credibility and is all about partisan politics. His argument is drowned out by his bias.

[bootlegga]

Unsound Unsound:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Curtman Curtman:

The conservative's head-in-the-sand approach to all this did us no good, and I'm sure momma Khadr is overjoyed that her son can be a martyr and come home again. Stephen Harper: You got played.

Only in the minds of those who would never vote for the Conservatives, those of us who did vote for the Conservatives applaud the effort to avoid taking back this piece of shit.

I've voted conservative. I've never applauded our government avoiding it's unpleasant responsibilities.

This isn't about that shitstain Omar Khadr, it's about, as Curt said, our government thinking it's ok to pick and choose which Canadian citizens get to be treated as real citizens, and which don't.

Exactly! +5

[Curtman]

Unsound Unsound:

This isn't about that shitstain Omar Khadr, it's about, as Curt said, our government thinking it's ok to pick and choose which Canadian citizens get to be treated as real citizens, and which don't.

It's clearly not a partisan issue either. The Liberals played a similar game with the other Khadr son. They were more successful though.

http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2006/2006fc727/2006fc727.html

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Ottawa, Ontario, June 8, 2006

PRESENT: The Honourable Mr. Justice Phelan



BETWEEN:

ABDURAHMAN KHADR

Applicant

and


ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CANADA

Respondent

This judicial review concerns a Canadian citizen, who is neither convicted nor charged with any offence nor said to be a threat to Canada, who applied for his passport renewal for which he qualified in all respects under the existing provisions. The government, recognizing that the Applicant was entitled to his passport, changed the qualifications, without notice to anyone, to deprive the Applicant of his passport. This is the judicial review of the decision to deny the issuance of the passport, a decision made pursuant to an exercise of the prerogative of the Crown.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... khadr.html

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How would you characterize the relationship between your father and Osama?

Between my father and Osama, I could say they're friends. They're old friends. My father is one of those really old people. It's like buddies, you know, you're having buddies from your school and stuff. So they're old friends. My father really respects Osama and Osama really respects my father.

And now they are together again. How wonderful.

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But now there was the hope of if I get captured, if I get captured by the Afghans or by anyone, after everything, they're going to give me back to the Canadians. And they're going to take me back to Canada. So I was thinking, you know, I should just stay in Kabul, even if I'm arrested. Wait in Kabul for a month or two until the embassy opens up and then just go into the embassy and stay in there. And tell them, "you know what, I'm going nowhere until you take me to Canada."

The Liberals fought and won. The Americans played smart with their guy, they said renounce your citizenship and we'll give you to Saudi Arabia. We just stuck our heads in the sand this time and pretended nothing was happening.

[PluggyRug]

Some say "good ole Khadr".....others tell the truth.

[Lemmy]

Marc Emery really has nothing to do with the Khadr case. Emery has been mistreated by the system and should be serving his time in Canada. Sure. But so should Khadr (given that execution isn't an option).

Btw, Emery has been transferred to a low-security facility in Mississippi. He's not doing hard time at some supermax and is likely doing a lot more for the legalization movement by serving his time in the USA.