[hwacker]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

thats 0.5 percent

yeah I know, either DX is dense or he's trying to BS everybody.

[Wally_Sconce]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Once again you show how you cannot even participate in a reasonable debate. You simply attack me then try and make it seem like I'm the culprit when it was you who all along seeks to destroy every debate with ad-hominem attacks.

I ignore hwanker regardless of what he says and if you are incapable of posting even the slightest bit of intelligent debate to me then feel free to ignore me all you want.

Hi thanks for the reply DerbyX.

I have thought about what you are saying. Well, I'm doing my best not to be jaded about previous threads. It would be nice if you did the same.

[Benoit]

hwacker hwacker:

Benoit Benoit:

hwacker hwacker:

In 2004, Planned Parenthood affiliates performed 255,015 abortions but only referred out 1,414 adoptions to other agencies

That's some shocking data.

US data

Do you really think it's that different in Canada? Total numbers will be lower but the % will be the same


and stop trying to jack up your post count with BS posts.

Here what is more shocking: more than 15,000 children under the age of five perish daily from malnutrition, starvation or related causes.

http://www.nourishthechildren.com/bp/st ... c_faq.html

[DerbyX]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Once again you show how you cannot even participate in a reasonable debate. You simply attack me then try and make it seem like I'm the culprit when it was you who all along seeks to destroy every debate with ad-hominem attacks.

I ignore hwanker regardless of what he says and if you are incapable of posting even the slightest bit of intelligent debate to me then feel free to ignore me all you want.

Hi thanks for the reply DerbyX.

I have thought about what you are saying. Well, I'm doing my best not to be jaded about previous threads. It would be nice if you did the same.

Go all the way back to the start when I did just that. I posted relevant points in the debate. It was you who started all this nonesense and I'm more then happy to put that all in the past.

As I already said if you feel you can't have a reasonable debate with me then simply ignore my posts. That is entirely what I do to hwanker. Well over year ago it became obvious to me he is nothing more then a narrow minded hateful bigot with no intelligent points to add to any debate and so any debate with him always degenerated to flame fests. I had enough and told him I was no longer going to respond to his garbage and I haven't. No matter what he posts and no matter how much he tries to goad me I simply ignore him.

[Benoit]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Once again you show how you cannot even participate in a reasonable debate. You simply attack me then try and make it seem like I'm the culprit when it was you who all along seeks to destroy every debate with ad-hominem attacks.

I ignore hwanker regardless of what he says and if you are incapable of posting even the slightest bit of intelligent debate to me then feel free to ignore me all you want.

Hi thanks for the reply DerbyX.

I have thought about what you are saying. Well, I'm doing my best not to be jaded about previous threads. It would be nice if you did the same.

Go all the way back to the start when I did just that. I posted relevant points in the debate. It was you who started all this nonesense and I'm more then happy to put that all in the past.

As I already said if you feel you can't have a reasonable debate with me then simply ignore my posts. That is entirely what I do to hwanker. Well over year ago it became obvious to me he is nothing more then a narrow minded hateful bigot with no intelligent points to add to any debate and so any debate with him always degenerated to flame fests. I had enough and told him I was no longer going to respond to his garbage and I haven't. No matter what he posts and no matter how much he tries to goad me I simply ignore him.

Debating about abortion is a luxury Africa and Asia cannot afford.

[Pseudonym]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Pseudonym Pseudonym:

I view them as groups dedicated to working against something they regard as murder, although I highly disapprove of any tactics that involve lying/giving a false representation of what they are to the public/individuals. How does that sound?

Then you admit that 1 side uses unsavory tactics that you personally disapprove of and the other had a single incident whereby a member made unsavory comments and was subsequently disciplined.

Your first statement shows that you can see exactly why they use such tactics. They consider it murder so therefore lying to the patient, coercing the patient and violating the patients right are simply not as important as preventing an abortion so they pursue those tactics as a matter of policy.

Planned Parenthood and similiar pro-choice groups have no vested interested in pushing women to choose an abortion. Despite obvious misinformation of hwanker these groups provide a wide range of services for womens health and they would make more money from a women keeping the baby and using the facility for pre-natal care throughout her preganacy.

2 different groups with 2 different goals and tactics.

It is therefore not a case of both sides being equally dishonest and biased no matter how much some may want it to be. Only 1 side has any reason to be dishonest in the pursuit of its single minded goal and thats the pro-life side in the form of CPCs. Not all pro-lifers mind you but certainly the ones who view abortion just as you said, murder.

Don't tell me what I admit. Planned Parenthood has a major invested interest, as they continue to profit obscenely from the abortion industry. There are multiple cases where they have neglected to report statutory rape. There are multiple cases where they have accepted donations for the express purpose of aborting African American fetuses. There are multiple cases of botched abortions that have resulted in permanent infertility or death. They are not as clean as you portray them to be. While I find a particular tactic of certain CBCs distasteful, I do not disapprove of them as a whole, as they are advocating for a sincere belief, one which is continually derided and mocked.

[DerbyX]

Pseudonym Pseudonym:

Don't tell me what I admit. Planned Parenthood has a major invested interest, as they continue to profit obscenely from the abortion industry. There are multiple cases where they have neglected to report statutory rape. There are multiple cases where they have accepted donations for the express purpose of aborting African American fetuses. There are multiple cases of botched abortions that have resulted in permanent infertility or death. They are not as clean as you portray them to be. While I find a particular tactic of certain CBCs distasteful, I do not disapprove of them as a whole, as they are advocating for a sincere belief, one which is continually derided and mocked.

Incorrect. There is a single case where somebody stepped out of bounds, not multiple accounts.

Reporting statutory rape or not is irrelevant to the abortion debate.

There are multiple examples of botched births resulting in death to both the women and fetus or permenant damage. So what?

You can try to vilify Planned Parenthood all you want but they are infinitely more honest and forth right then any anti-abortion group.

[Wally_Sconce]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Once again you show how you cannot even participate in a reasonable debate. You simply attack me then try and make it seem like I'm the culprit when it was you who all along seeks to destroy every debate with ad-hominem attacks.

I ignore hwanker regardless of what he says and if you are incapable of posting even the slightest bit of intelligent debate to me then feel free to ignore me all you want.

Hi thanks for the reply DerbyX.

I have thought about what you are saying. Well, I'm doing my best not to be jaded about previous threads. It would be nice if you did the same.

Go all the way back to the start when I did just that. I posted relevant points in the debate. It was you who started all this nonesense and I'm more then happy to put that all in the past.

As I already said if you feel you can't have a reasonable debate with me then simply ignore my posts. That is entirely what I do to hwanker. Well over year ago it became obvious to me he is nothing more then a narrow minded hateful bigot with no intelligent points to add to any debate and so any debate with him always degenerated to flame fests. I had enough and told him I was no longer going to respond to his garbage and I haven't. No matter what he posts and no matter how much he tries to goad me I simply ignore him.

you are willing to make up? or are you willing to put that problem personality of yours on the shelf for a while?

Derby, people don't use serious conversations to name call on someone that you've been ignoring for a year. Have you considered that you need to let go?

[DerbyX]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

you are willing to make up? or are you willing to put that problem personality of yours on the shelf for a while?

Derby, people don't use serious conversations to name call on someone that you've been ignoring for a year. Have you considered that you need to let go?

You keep thinking you aren't a problem personality. You are. Perhaps you should put that on the shelf and stop accusing me of being one and the problem wouldn't be there.

Oh, and yes I was perfectly justified in what I said about hwanker. Look how he stalks me and insults me yet I ignore him. I think after many pages of him doing that I was justfied.

BTW, just how much of a problem would it have been if I had bothered to answers his posts in the same tone as his? Looks to me like I am going out of my way to avoid the problems you keep accusing me of and if you were being fair you would be complaining about him as well.

[hwacker]

Stalk ?

I'm blowing holes in everything you say. PP is bunch of money hungry baby killers

225K abortions and 1400 adoptions

Choice my ass, that’s a killing mill.

[Zipperfish]

hwacker hwacker:

Stalk ?

I'm blowing holes in everything you say. .

No you're not.

[Zipperfish]

Benoit Benoit:

Here what is more shocking: more than 15,000 children under the age of five perish daily from malnutrition, starvation or related causes.

http://www.nourishthechildren.com/bp/st ... c_faq.html

Hey Benoit, I notices that Aging Redneck got in the last post on the "Legalize Pot Like Cigarettes" thred. Does that enrage you?

[hwacker]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

hwacker hwacker:

Stalk ?

I'm blowing holes in everything you say. .

No you're not.

yes I am, he says they offer and try to show choice.

not by the stats. it's a money grab.

[Benoit]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Benoit Benoit:

Here what is more shocking: more than 15,000 children under the age of five perish daily from malnutrition, starvation or related causes.

http://www.nourishthechildren.com/bp/st ... c_faq.html

Hey Benoit, I notices that Aging Redneck got in the last post on the "Legalize Pot Like Cigarettes" thred. Does that enrage you?

SprCForr

[Brenda]

He always will

Too bad for you Benoit, that before that, it was AR, and not you.
Sooooo, since we are intelligent people and learn from our mistakes, I take it you learned that you will NEVER have the last word, but that will always be a mod or an admin. What you also should have learned, is that you'll never win the game, so you can give it up. Which would make this a much better place, you a better person, and us a little less... amused