[DerbyX]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

Holy crap. Do you notice how putred and skanky this thread gets whenever Derby comes in to spread his left wing church of hate philosophy?

Only a couple of hours ago, we were all having a friendly conversation.

I am getting sick of you trolling this thread trying to stir up shit.

I did not infringe upon your debate with Brenda and I have had very productive debates with anybody who is not you.

You keep trying to stir up shit be bitching about me stirring up shit.

If you want to continue being an asshole all the time the just ignore me.

I ignore hwanker no matter what he says and if you aren't ever going to contribute meaningful points then don't respond to me at all.

On Yer Bike.

There's that problem personality thing of yours acting up again.

I have a question: Are you capable of participate on this forum for one day without personally attacking someone, or being rude and confrontational in the way you compose your messages?

For what it's worth, Have a nice day Derby. Perhaps if I write this often enough, you could turn down your attitude a bit.

regards
AR

Once again you show how you cannot even participate in a reasonable debate. You simply attack me then try and make it seem like I'm the culprit when it was you who all along seeks to destroy every debate with ad-hominem attacks.

I ignore hwanker regardless of what he says and if you are incapable of posting even the slightest bit of intelligent debate to me then feel free to ignore me all you want.

[Pseudonym]

You answered my question, that's all I wanted.

[DerbyX]

Pseudonym Pseudonym:

You answered my question, that's all I wanted.

Now how do you feel about CPC tactics of dishonesty, coercion, and the violation of patient rights?

[Pseudonym]

I view them as groups dedicated to working against something they regard as murder, although I highly disapprove of any tactics that involve lying/giving a false representation of what they are to the public/individuals. How does that sound?

[DerbyX]

Pseudonym Pseudonym:

I view them as groups dedicated to working against something they regard as murder, although I highly disapprove of any tactics that involve lying/giving a false representation of what they are to the public/individuals. How does that sound?

Then you admit that 1 side uses unsavory tactics that you personally disapprove of and the other had a single incident whereby a member made unsavory comments and was subsequently disciplined.

Your first statement shows that you can see exactly why they use such tactics. They consider it murder so therefore lying to the patient, coercing the patient and violating the patients right are simply not as important as preventing an abortion so they pursue those tactics as a matter of policy.

Planned Parenthood and similiar pro-choice groups have no vested interested in pushing women to choose an abortion. Despite obvious misinformation of hwanker these groups provide a wide range of services for womens health and they would make more money from a women keeping the baby and using the facility for pre-natal care throughout her preganacy.

2 different groups with 2 different goals and tactics.

It is therefore not a case of both sides being equally dishonest and biased no matter how much some may want it to be. Only 1 side has any reason to be dishonest in the pursuit of its single minded goal and thats the pro-life side in the form of CPCs. Not all pro-lifers mind you but certainly the ones who view abortion just as you said, murder.

[Benoit]

hwacker hwacker:

great people indeed

The ladies were entrapped.

[hwacker]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Planned Parenthood and similiar pro-choice groups have no vested interested in pushing women to choose an abortion. Despite obvious misinformation of hwanker these groups provide a wide range of services for womens health and they would make more money from a women keeping the baby and using the facility for pre-natal care throughout her preganacy.

Are you dense?




NO ABORTION = NO MONEY

How else do they pay the bills and the salaries of the baby killers?


Do you go to work just because you have nothing else to do?

No, because you need money to live, so do the sick people at PP.

[Benoit]

hwacker hwacker:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Planned Parenthood and similiar pro-choice groups have no vested interested in pushing women to choose an abortion. Despite obvious misinformation of hwanker these groups provide a wide range of services for womens health and they would make more money from a women keeping the baby and using the facility for pre-natal care throughout her preganacy.

Are you dense?




NO ABORTION = NO MONEY

How else do they pay the bills and the salaries of the baby killers?


Do you go to work just because you have nothing else to do?

No, because you need money to live, so do the sick people at PP.

Maybe they make money from women keeping their babies and using the facility for pre-natal cares throughout their pregnancies.

[hwacker]

$1:

Planned Parenthood, which is also the nation’s largest abortion provider. Critics say the federal grants indirectly subsidize Planned Parenthood’s abortion services by keeping a steady stream of money flowing into the clinics.

President Ronald Reagan imposed rules over two decades ago that barred clinics that received Title X money from performing abortions or referring patients to abortion clinics. Opponents filed suit, and the regulations were put on hold for years as the court battle played out. The United States Supreme Court eventually upheld the regulations - but a year and a half later, President Clinton rescinded them.

If they were using money to help prevent abortions, why would they file suit ?

looks like they need the cash to kill babies.

[hwacker]

$1:

As with any organization or industry, following the money trail provides a good indication of a group’s true values, beliefs, and mission. With Planned Parenthood, the case is no different. According to Planned Parenthood’s 2004-2005 annual report, the non-profit received $882 million in revenue (generated from such services as emergency contraception kits, STD examinations, and abortion procedures) and showed a $63 million excess of revenue over expenses. More startling is the fact that $272.7 million came directly from taxpayers in the form of government grants and contracts.[8]

At the state level, the numbers are no less disconcerting. Planned Parenthood Health Systems, Inc., (PPHSI) has offices in three southern states, including North Carolina. According to the organization’s IRS 990 forms for the 2005 fiscal year, PPHSI garnered $4.75 million in revenue and paid over $2 million in wages and benefits to its employees,[9] including $127,378 to Walter Klausmeier, president and chief executive.[10]

“Abortion is a huge business for them, as well as the dispensing of birth control, and now the dispensing of the morning after pill,” said Blake Honeycutt, executive director of Carolina Pregnancy Center in Greenville, N.C. She said that pregnancy resource centers (PRCs) cut into abortion industry revenue and profits, which is one of the reasons pro-abortion groups have targeted pro-life clinics. In fact, NARAL Pro-Choice North Carolina released a report in July 2006 accusing PRCs of using “lies and scare tactics to prevent women from making informed choices about abortion.”

“A lot of it has to do with finances and monies that are appropriated for different things,” Honeycutt said. “It’s no secret that [Planned Parenthood] gets huge governmental funds and that pregnancy resource centers across the nation would love to get some of that money. We get very little, if any. We get a few dollars here and there, but I’m sure that they don’t like that, because it’s competition for dollars.”

Given the cost of each abortion procedure, it’s little wonder that Planned Parenthood is flourishing. According to a survey conducted in 2001 by authors Stanley Henshaw and Lawrence B. Finer, the average amount charged by abortion providers ranged from $468 for a surgical abortion at 10 weeks gestation to well over $1,000 for the procedure at 20 weeks. Abortion rates, however, can range as high as $4,000.[11]

In 2004, Planned Parenthood affiliates performed 255,015 abortions but only referred out 1,414 adoptions to other agencies. The organization also issued 983,537 emergency contraception kits.[12]

Local to our state, Planned Parenthood of Central North Carolina (PPCNC) charges $375 for a medication abortion, the same kind that led to complications and the ultimate death of Holly Patterson. Prices rise substantially from there, with PPCNC charging as much as $1475 for an invasive, or “surgical,” abortion.[13]

http://davidnbass.com/2007/01/01/the-pl ... hood-trap/

[Benoit]

hwacker hwacker:

$1:

Planned Parenthood, which is also the nation’s largest abortion provider. Critics say the federal grants indirectly subsidize Planned Parenthood’s abortion services by keeping a steady stream of money flowing into the clinics.

President Ronald Reagan imposed rules over two decades ago that barred clinics that received Title X money from performing abortions or referring patients to abortion clinics. Opponents filed suit, and the regulations were put on hold for years as the court battle played out. The United States Supreme Court eventually upheld the regulations - but a year and a half later, President Clinton rescinded them.

If they were using money to help prevent abortions, why would they file suit ?

looks like they need the cash to kill babies.

Financing is totally different in Canada.

[hwacker]

Benoit Benoit:

hwacker hwacker:

$1:

Planned Parenthood, which is also the nation’s largest abortion provider. Critics say the federal grants indirectly subsidize Planned Parenthood’s abortion services by keeping a steady stream of money flowing into the clinics.

President Ronald Reagan imposed rules over two decades ago that barred clinics that received Title X money from performing abortions or referring patients to abortion clinics. Opponents filed suit, and the regulations were put on hold for years as the court battle played out. The United States Supreme Court eventually upheld the regulations - but a year and a half later, President Clinton rescinded them.

If they were using money to help prevent abortions, why would they file suit ?

looks like they need the cash to kill babies.

Financing is totally different in Canada.

Mindset of these killers is not. Pro Choice is abortion or nothing. some choice.

In 2004, Planned Parenthood affiliates performed 255,015 abortions but only referred out 1,414 adoptions to other agencies

That's some shocking data.

[Benoit]

hwacker hwacker:

In 2004, Planned Parenthood affiliates performed 255,015 abortions but only referred out 1,414 adoptions to other agencies

That's some shocking data.

US data

[Wally_Sconce]

[quote="hwacker

In 2004, Planned Parenthood affiliates performed 255,015 abortions but only referred out 1,414 adoptions to other agencies

That's some shocking data.[/quote]

thats 0.5 percent

[hwacker]

Benoit Benoit:

hwacker hwacker:

In 2004, Planned Parenthood affiliates performed 255,015 abortions but only referred out 1,414 adoptions to other agencies

That's some shocking data.

US data

Do you really think it's that different in Canada? Total numbers will be lower but the % will be the same


and stop trying to jack up your post count with BS posts.