[EyeBrock]

Brenda Brenda:

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EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm all for new cultures and new business, but Muslims are incestuous in business and in keeping their culture 'pure'.
They are not alone as Chinese in Canada, especially in Toronto and the GTA are the same.

I'm sorry, what do you mean by 'incestuous in business' ?

Keeping the jobs to "their own".
Chinese won't hire non-Chinese, Muslims won't hire non-Muslims.

Thanks for the translation Cloggy!

[Brenda]

[mentalfloss]

Brenda Brenda:

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EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I'm all for new cultures and new business, but Muslims are incestuous in business and in keeping their culture 'pure'.
They are not alone as Chinese in Canada, especially in Toronto and the GTA are the same.

I'm sorry, what do you mean by 'incestuous in business' ?

Keeping the jobs to "their own".
Chinese won't hire non-Chinese, Muslims won't hire non-Muslims.

Ah, I see. Well that's a bit of a stereotype though. My gf is Chinese and we are in the forbidden GTA, and she doesn't follow that mandate all.

I wouldn't use that as an excuse to crucify the culture, as the same can be said of a lot of ethnicities or religions - Catholics being the obvious 'white' counterpart.

No, my point still stands. And it also reinforces a healthy free market of industry competitiveness where this woman would be held to a high standard of work ethic despite her garb - The Canadian Dream!

[EyeBrock]

Plenty of Chinese do keep it within their 'community'. It's more the rule than the exception. Just drive to the Chinese only malls in Mississauga with no English signs in sight. It's a reality.

[Brenda]

$1:

The Canadian Dream!

Disney is Canadian?

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EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Plenty of Chinese do keep it within their 'community'. It's more the rule than the exception. Just drive to the Chinese only malls in Mississauga with no English signs in sight. It's a reality.

English is important. Communication is important. If there is anything worth conformity I would agree to its a national language. But we're talking about a fairly innocuous piece of fabric here. Society needs to accept it and move on.

That this and similar incidences are even being taken to the level of judicial dispute is a shame we will have to live with for a long time.

[andyt]

She's not wearing a uniform, but a strictly enforced dress code. So the question is what trumps what - employers rights vs employees.

If employers have unlimited rights to run their businesses, then I guess that son of Rand Paul was right that they don't have to hire blacks if they don't want to.

If she can show that the hijab is part of her religion, then she'll win, I would think. If not, then too bad.

I think she's pushing the boundaries, but that's how change happens. Instinctively I side with Disney, because it involves Muslims, but on any rational basis I think she should be allowed the hijab - if as I say it is clearly a religious requirement, like the turban is for male Sikhs.

[EyeBrock]

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EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Plenty of Chinese do keep it within their 'community'. It's more the rule than the exception. Just drive to the Chinese only malls in Mississauga with no English signs in sight. It's a reality.

English is important. Communication is important. If there is anything worth conformity I would agree to its a national language. But we're talking about a fairly innocuous piece of fabric here. Society needs to accept it and move on.

That this and similar incidences are even being taken to the level of judicial dispute is a shame we will have to live with for a long time.

I disagree on the 'innocuous' part.

Personally I have no issues with the Hijab but it is quite obvious that this chick is looking for a fight and it's her version of Islam Vs Disney.

Really, I'm sick of all this bollocks. If Joe Smith from Arkansas can't get a job as a Disney elf because he won't shave his beard then I have no time for this chick who decided to wear the Hijab two years into her time with Disney.

It's a one-way street. We do the accommodating, newcomers tell us how bad we are and then we are expected to change.

Well, hey, there are options open to those who don't dig our ways.

This chick is from Morocco where there is a huge Jihadi influence taking hold, plus it’s a shit-hole barely out of the 9th century.

Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.

[mentalfloss]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Personally I have no issues with the Hijab but it is quite obvious that this chick is looking for a fight and it's her version of Islam Vs Disney.

She can paint it anyway she wants. The real issue is whether or not wearing that piece of garb actually conflicts with the job in question - not her subversive tactics.

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Really, I'm sick of all this bollocks. If Joe Smith from Arkansas can't get a job as a Disney elf because he won't shave his beard then I have no time for this chick who decided to wear the Hijab two years into her time with Disney.

Again, you're making causal associations here that don't actually fit with your argument. If a Disney Elf can't have a beard because that is the role of a Disney Elf, then I agree, Joe Smith shouldn't be hired. You can't associate that with her role as a hotel employee.

[Brenda]

Did you read the link of dress codes I posted? Actually, there are 2.
One for employees, one for guests.

[ASLplease]

I know of sihks that wrap their hair in a cloth in order to safely wear a hardhat(a requirement for their unionized coal mining job)

...not all of them are adamant that it has to be a turbin.

[ASLplease]

Brenda, you mentioned wearing a bra. I just heard a story on the radio about how there are muslim 'police' in countries with sharia law that will go around checking women for breasts that look too firm. If they are too firm, the woman is strip searched to see if she is wearing a bra. and if she is wearing a bra, they are flogged.

[BartSimpson]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Plenty of Chinese do keep it within their 'community'. It's more the rule than the exception. Just drive to the Chinese only malls in Mississauga with no English signs in sight. It's a reality.

Makes me wonder what happens to the Chinese-only malls in Quebeck? Do they have to put up their signs in French or is that kind of discriminiation only reserved for anglophones?

[Brenda]

I know. I read today that judges in Saudi Arabia asked hospitals if they could cut the spinal cord of a guy who paralyzed another one during a fight.
1 hospital refused, the answer of the others is not known.

It pisses me off.

[EyeBrock]

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EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Personally I have no issues with the Hijab but it is quite obvious that this chick is looking for a fight and it's her version of Islam Vs Disney.

She can paint it anyway she wants. The real issue is whether or not wearing that piece of garb actually conflicts with the job in question - not her subversive tactics.

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Really, I'm sick of all this bollocks. If Joe Smith from Arkansas can't get a job as a Disney elf because he won't shave his beard then I have no time for this chick who decided to wear the Hijab two years into her time with Disney.

Again, you're making causal associations here that don't actually fit with your argument. If a Disney Elf can't have a beard because that is the role of a Disney Elf, then I agree, Joe Smith shouldn't be hired. You can't associate that with her role as a hotel employee.

You should maybe do some of your own research on this. I used an elf as an example but nobody is allowed to have a beard or tash as a Disney cast member. Brenda posted links.

I think before you continue to post you should maybe get a better grasp on the subject(s).

I'm not here to educate you.

I assume a certain amount of knowledge of the subject matters in those that choose to debate.

I'm not seeing that in your posts.