desertdude desertdude:
I did Jeff but without directing then at you, but in general, would take me forever to answer each and every question or argument posted here, and I do have better things to do than to sit here all day playiing Q n A.
Lets give it another try so you will stop whining.
A) Yes I know its France Sherlock but the majority agreed and some even said it should be done in Canada aswell so I was addressing to them as Canadians unless the Qubecens (?!) still consider themselves French
B) This isn't a question at all than just a stab at religion and no particular religion just religion in general. I'll address whatever I could make out to be a question from that dribble.
Like I said and if you would have read my post earlier, the burqa, niqaab or chador is not mandatory in Islam at all. There is nothing wrong with wearing a T shirt. The burqa is more cultral than anything else. and since you brought that being comfortable in our climate argument up, a loose fitting garment covering the entire body is best suited for the hot humid desert climate where thesun blazes in your face all year round and even men wear it and it works best than any track suit can. And now has become part of how they dress from centuries of living in such extreme climates predating even Islam or christianity. Jesus is always depicted wearing a long flowing robe if you havent noticed and so are any women, Last supper anyone.
To get it across. After having lived in that region for eons the men and women have adapted them selves and now it is part of their culture and tradition. Even non muslim women from those regions wear such clothing i.e : The coptic chrstians.
High heels are more damaging to women than any burqa will be anyday, Humans were not meant to walk and function on stilts. Why don't you raise your voice against that just to fit into western stereotypes of what female beauty should be like, women should not bring on permanent harm to their bodies and reject them.
But is engrained into society now and acceptable. I mean I could go on forever with you for eg back to your climate argument. How long has the skirt, T-shirt, Tank tops and thight jeans been around ? You guys have been living on that continent for around 500 years now. Look back at the clothing of women lets say 100 years. Do you see any T shirts, Tank tops etc etc. Look at women in Europe from that time ?
You will see most of them wearing full sleeved dresses till the floor. Oppressive ?
Women wern't even allowed to vote till 1918 in Canada. In 1848 was only a law passed in the US that men and women should have equal rights, The right to own property, equal rights etc etc all just recently came into existance when you look it. Now thats what I call oppressive and unequal treatment.
Why stop at women. In living memeory of many people alive today black people wern't even considered proper humans in the so called most advanced civilisation of this planet today. And as late as 1994 in South Africa ruled by descendants of your forefathers.
So you gotta long way before you can accuse or associate anyone of anythign regarding race, religion or what one chooses to wear and what it represents.
A Burqa is piece of cultral clothing nothing more and nothing less. Would you stop these catholic negerian women from wearing this. It seems dangerously "Islamic". Hair and body covered ?
If not then why can't a Muslim or Non Muslim woman wear a burqa I ask ?
Wow I don't even know where to start. That and please next time use a spell checker.
Well why not start with the question at the end which is resolved in one simple word. Security. You can not only clearly see those women's faces in Nigeria but clearly be able to see actual color and design in the garb.
The Burqa is often but not always a total covering of the face. That is a vastly different issue then a woman wearing heavy clothing and a special hat with her face clearly shown. I have no issue with the chador or niqabb at all in this regard. Philosophically I have a large issue with them but that is not a matter for law to be concerned with. For you to assume that I have lumped the burqa together with all Islamic dress is highly stupid and assumptive.
Were you aware for example that terrorists often use a burqa as a way of disguising their gender so they can get close to western troops to blow themselves up. Often a large group of men wearing burqas will attempt to walk through a checkpoint. If their faces were uncovered they would likely be quickly identified as Taliban and dispatched. I could honestly go on about issues in regards to democratic forums and how the burqs hurts the ability of the police to do it's job but I'll save that for a latter time.
Your example of high heels as a clothing item we should ban for being unhealthy is a perfect example of what I'm trying to point out to you.
Namely that the whole reason you ban something is not at all for religious reasoning in civilized society. It's because you have sound logical evidence that shows the danger the item causes. I can clearly and rationally point to many faults with the burqa that are incompatible with the needs of our everyday society in the developed world.
Your arguments that we should not ban the burqa because it is a religious and cultural icon do not hold water against rational.
For example if a religious group approached the state asking for permission to use a certain hallucinogenic drug that they claimed made them closer to god should we permit it for the sake of religious freedom? Of course not as we would all quickly realize that allowing a drug to be legal for one selective group would be a violation of the spirit of law. To create an exception based outside of reason goes against the very idea that courts exist to judge a case based on reasonable argument.
Your notion of not banning the burqa based on cultural and religious grounds alone is ill founded and irrational. Freedom of religion does not mean you should become exempt from laws to which we try to hold everyone in equal measure.
Either present a sound and reasoned argument without these straw-man points you keep trying to pin on me incorrectly and without thought or go back to your books of imaginary sky men and talking snakes.
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