[KorbenDeck]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

I think it's clear all the problems that come up. Some of them have already been addressed here such as child rights and the ideas of inbreeding and minimizing our gene pool.

I don't think personally there is any question why we don't allow polygamy. The very survival of our species relies on the spreading of DNA and the evolution of intelligence.

To use the argument that to allow gay couples to marry is to open marriage to all parties also means that we should allow incest of couples, arranged marriage, etc. Yet we don't because we understand the harm involved the violation of freedom in some cases.

We have every right to use common sense when making rulings in regards to laws that have a large impact on our society.

I would argue that common sense has at times in our history overridden our charter of rights.

What does incesnt have to do with polygamy?

If we allow gay marriage, and we allow polygamy, we do not have any real grounds to stand on to prevent brother and sisters from marrying. Since with gay marriage we have said that health/medical concerns are not a factor when deciding if someone can marry or not. With polygamy we would have completely thrown out what marriage traditionally is.

[CanadianJeff]

Actually with polygamy you have multiple people of one gender mating with one person of another gender. You cut the gene pool on one side of the gender for all those kids down by quite a bit.

Polygamy is inbreeding. If you have 20 men mate with a single female you shrink the gene pool compared to 20 men mating with 20 females.

We don't allow polygamy and incest for these reasons.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

Actually with polygamy you have multiple people of one gender mating with one person of another gender. You cut the gene pool on one side of the gender for all those kids down by quite a bit.

Polygamy is inbreeding. If you have 20 men mate with a single female you shrink the gene pool compared to 20 men mating with 20 females.

We don't allow polygamy and incest for these reasons.

Not to mention that the closer in the blood line the incestual parents of a child are, the more likely the child will be born with some VERY serious birth defects. And I mean those extra special fucked up kind that rarely if ever appear except in cases of incest.

[Guy_Fawkes]

KorbenDeck KorbenDeck:

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

I think it's clear all the problems that come up. Some of them have already been addressed here such as child rights and the ideas of inbreeding and minimizing our gene pool.

I don't think personally there is any question why we don't allow polygamy. The very survival of our species relies on the spreading of DNA and the evolution of intelligence.

To use the argument that to allow gay couples to marry is to open marriage to all parties also means that we should allow incest of couples, arranged marriage, etc. Yet we don't because we understand the harm involved the violation of freedom in some cases.

We have every right to use common sense when making rulings in regards to laws that have a large impact on our society.

I would argue that common sense has at times in our history overridden our charter of rights.

What does incesnt have to do with polygamy?

If we allow gay marriage, and we allow polygamy, we do not have any real grounds to stand on to prevent brother and sisters from marrying. Since with gay marriage we have said that health/medical concerns are not a factor when deciding if someone can marry or not. With polygamy we would have completely thrown out what marriage traditionally is.

That's quite a ripple of evil you are conjuring up, do you have any evidence to back this up?

Siblings are not going to run out and get married, if a brother and sister wanted to fuck and have kids I dont think being unwed will stop them.

[Guy_Fawkes]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

Actually with polygamy you have multiple people of one gender mating with one person of another gender. You cut the gene pool on one side of the gender for all those kids down by quite a bit.

Polygamy is inbreeding. If you have 20 men mate with a single female you shrink the gene pool compared to 20 men mating with 20 females.

We don't allow polygamy and incest for these reasons.

Not to mention that the closer in the blood line the incestual parents of a child are, the more likely the child will be born with some VERY serious birth defects. And I mean those extra special fucked up kind that rarely if ever appear except in cases of incest.

Each subsequent child through incest increases the risks but you are not guaranteed to have a child with birth defects.

[Guy_Fawkes]

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

Actually with polygamy you have multiple people of one gender mating with one person of another gender. You cut the gene pool on one side of the gender for all those kids down by quite a bit.

Polygamy is inbreeding. If you have 20 men mate with a single female you shrink the gene pool compared to 20 men mating with 20 females.

We don't allow polygamy and incest for these reasons.

Do you seriously think that one woman would/could have 20 children?

[Brenda]

19 kids and counting...

Yes, a woman can...

[raydan]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

CanadianJeff CanadianJeff:

Actually with polygamy you have multiple people of one gender mating with one person of another gender. You cut the gene pool on one side of the gender for all those kids down by quite a bit.

Polygamy is inbreeding. If you have 20 men mate with a single female you shrink the gene pool compared to 20 men mating with 20 females.

We don't allow polygamy and incest for these reasons.

Do you seriously think that one woman would/could have 20 children?

My mom's aunt had 19 kids.

[Akhenaten]

I don't remotely care. It speaks greatly of the general contentment of our society that we bother to debate this at all. Go ahead. Marry 30 women. Marry 30 men. Have 2 men marry. Marry a dog and a cat for all I care. Consentual is all I care about.

Please don't use the 'traditional marriage' argument since it never has any legs unless by 'traditionally' you mean north america and within the last 50 years.

"Traditionally" marriage was prearrainged. "Traditionally" marriage was political. "Traditionally" if you're a man you were paid a dowery for the trouble you were plainly taking on by marrying a woman in the first place. "Traditionally" there was no divorce, then there was divorce, then there was no divorce again and then back to allowing divorce.

"Traditional" marriage is a straw man argument. It's meaningless. It's a false perception and after that it's a poor excuse not to augment something that's been augmented over and over again every 20 years for the past 3000. Marriage tradition is what we as a society collectively say it is.

[Guy_Fawkes]

Brenda Brenda:

19 kids and counting...

Yes, a woman can...

How many years did that take?

How long did the mother live till?

[Brenda]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

Brenda Brenda:

19 kids and counting...

Yes, a woman can...

How many years did that take?

How long did the mother live till?

You mean you don't watch that show?
I think she is 42 now and pregnant again.

[Guy_Fawkes]

I could have guessed she has a show, why is it that any woman who has a clown car vagina has her own show.

So she gave birth to all of them, or did she acquire some through marriage?

[Brenda]

She has been married to the father for ages, and gave birth to them all. One of her kids is having a baby with his gf himself

[Akhenaten]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

:lol:

I could have guessed she has a show, why is it that any woman who has a clown car vagina has her own show.

omg. you owe me $20 for a new shirt.

[Guy_Fawkes]

I stand corrected than, I woman is more than capable to have children far into the double digits. This also shows however that you need not have to be in a polygamist relationship for it to happen, since it has happened in a monogamous relationship as well.