[romanP]

Brenda Brenda:

And out the window, off the bridge, off the roof of a hotel...
Which wouldn't be a problem, if you were actually able to fly (which is what you are trying...), but, shit happens, ya just never learned how to land.

This is why you don't take psychoactive drugs alone.

[Choban]

romanP romanP:

Choban Choban:

Personally I don't care what they leagalize, I don't do pharmacuticals as recreational drugs. People can spout their basis at us for why it's not harmful of what ever, tell me that after one of your friends dies from using EX and see if you feel the same.

If ecstasy were legal, the more likely it would be pure and therefore not deadly. What you friend took was probably cut with something it shouldn't have been cut with. It's an isolated incident, and an emotional appeal, neither of which are bases for how the law should be written.

Isolated incident???
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/608534
http://www.canada.com/news/Teen+overdos ... story.html
http://www.dancesafe.org/booth/ubbthrea ... mber=19041

I know what my friend took was cut, that's a given, I also know that pure MDMA doesn't case deaths (there are other health risks though). I agree that it's an emotional appeal, I'll also state that once again I have nothing against personal choice or leagalization

[romanP]

Most E related deaths are isolated incidents. There are not droves of people being killed by E. At most, it's usually less than fifty people per year. Alcohol-related deaths are in the tens of thousands every year. Tobacco causes hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.

Do the math.

[Choban]

romanP romanP:

Most E related deaths are isolated incidents. There are not droves of people being killed by E. At most, it's usually less than fifty people per year. Alcohol-related deaths are in the tens of thousands every year. Tobacco causes hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.

Do the math.

Ok, I get it. Hope you never have to deal with something like it, I can tell you it wasn't a good trip. I still feel alot of guilt and anger over the whole thing, hence my blinded opinions on the matter.
I am aware of where your comming from though.
I just don't agree with your opinion on drugs. I smoke pot fairly regularily but draw the line on anything else.
Take it easy Roman

[Proculation]

wow... I agree with romanP. Is it April Fool ? Where's the camera ??

[ShepherdsDog]

romanP romanP:

Most E related deaths are isolated incidents. There are not droves of people being killed by E. At most, it's usually less than fifty people per year. Alcohol-related deaths are in the tens of thousands every year. Tobacco causes hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.

Do the math.

Look at these deaths as a percentage of those who use. A hell of a lot more people smoke tobacco and drink alcohol than use E.

[ASLplease]

Exctasy isn't all about some hot and horny chic at a rave that wants to expand her life experiences.

A buddy of mine took exctasy then proceeded to try and blast his head off with a hunting rifle because he thought he could only 'wing' himself in the head. Several of his friends and I had to pin him down to the ground for an hour and 45 minutes until the EMS could show up and put him in a straight jacket. I can still remember the vile and cruel things that he said to us while we had him pinned to the floor. When he cleaned up the next day, he was extremely embarassed. It took him weeks to come around again. One of my other buddies thought the best thing to do with him was to cold calk the SOB when he finally did show up.

[romanP]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

romanP romanP:

Most E related deaths are isolated incidents. There are not droves of people being killed by E. At most, it's usually less than fifty people per year. Alcohol-related deaths are in the tens of thousands every year. Tobacco causes hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.

Do the math.

Look at these deaths as a percentage of those who use. A hell of a lot more people smoke tobacco and drink alcohol than use E.

Even as a percentage, it's still pretty small compared to tobacco and alcohol.

http://thedea.org/statistics.html

(You might notice right away that thedea.org probably has nothing to do with the actual DEA, and this article may not be reliable in any way. To tell you the truth, finding useful MDMA statistics seems to be rather difficult.)

[commanderkai]

romanP romanP:

I think it shows the police are doing their job. There are far more important things for us to be worried about crossing our borders than a bunch of drugs.

There might be maybe four types of smuggling (that I can think of, I'm sure there are thousands, but I'm rounding them up in these four). Weapon, drug, human, tax evasion.

Now, the worst is human smuggling, be it for sex trade, or general sweat shop stuff. This is the worst of them all, to be honest, because once they get here, it's almost impossible to stop their exploitation. Worst off is any terrorists getting across.

Next is weapons. Assault rifles, pistols, etc etc. I'll even put nuclear materials from some terrorist group. Bad sure, but these weapons, for the most part, are being brought in to engage in the next.

Drugs. Like it or not, drugs, and the violence it causes between gangs and individuals causes a huge mess. The drug smuggling itself, I feel, is committed by the same people who do the same drug smuggling.

And lastly, and the least important, is tax evasion smuggling. This is where people go to the USA, and buy as much shit as they can while they avoid paying tariffs or the taxes they'd have to in Canada.

Now, I stated before, human is the worst. However, I see both weapon and drug smuggling as the same problem, the gang and organized crime element within Canada. I'd say a good number of criminal activity in Canada, be it with robbery, assault, murder, and whatever else is probably connected, directly or indirectly to drugs. Therefore, if the police are ignoring huge ecstasy producing and distribution rings, or smuggling rings, we're doing a bad, bad job keeping the streets safe