[Zipperfish]

Scape Scape:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Second of all, I'm no fan of the gun registry.

Ok, i'll bite. Would you be in favor of a car registry?

I'm thinking we already have one and , no, I'm not a fan. Nor am I a fan of the government registering marriages. I guess you could say I don't really want the government registering a whole lot!

[ridenrain]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

What a moron, May said if 5 year olds could vote she would have won

That's because she thinks all Canadian voters are stupid.
What a sad loser. I'm glad she's gone.

[RUEZ]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Scape Scape:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Second of all, I'm no fan of the gun registry.

Ok, i'll bite. Would you be in favor of a car registry?

I'm thinking we already have one and , no, I'm not a fan. Nor am I a fan of the government registering marriages. I guess you could say I don't really want the government registering a whole lot!

You're not one of them anarchists are you?

[Zipperfish]

RUEZ RUEZ:

You're not one of them anarchists are you?

Not by a long shot. Just a fan of liberty.

[uwish]

Scape Scape:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Second of all, I'm no fan of the gun registry.

Ok, i'll bite. Would you be in favor of a car registry?

sure but you don't have to have it registered simply to OWN it. that isn't the case with firearms.

that is the big distinction.

a firearm is PROPERTY it is OWNED by an individual. Failure to register your car doesn't lead to your front door getting kicked in @ 2 am and raided by the SWAT team.


see the difference now?

[RUEZ]

uwish uwish:

Scape Scape:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Second of all, I'm no fan of the gun registry.

Ok, i'll bite. Would you be in favor of a car registry?

sure but you don't have to have it registered simply to OWN it. that isn't the case with firearms.

that is the big distinction.

a firearm is PROPERTY it is OWNED by an individual. Failure to register your car doesn't lead to your front door getting kicked in @ 2 am and raided by the SWAT team.


see the difference now?

People don't often think of that when they compare the gun registry to a car registry.

[uwish]

and that is 95% of the problem. People just think it mean register like your car IT DOESN'T

C-68 is NOT just registration of firearms, it has MASSIVE charter violation and reverse owness in law.

[uwish]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gohq_ADljzQ

[Zipperfish]

uwish uwish:

Scape Scape:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Second of all, I'm no fan of the gun registry.

Ok, i'll bite. Would you be in favor of a car registry?

sure but you don't have to have it registered simply to OWN it. that isn't the case with firearms.

that is the big distinction.

a firearm is PROPERTY it is OWNED by an individual. Failure to register your car doesn't lead to your front door getting kicked in @ 2 am and raided by the SWAT team.


see the difference now?

I think you do. I seem to recall that you are not allowed to give a car to someone else. You have to go do the paperwork--even if the other person has no intnetnion of insuring or driving it.

But look at driver's licence. Started off simple enough--a test you had to pass to drive. Now it is the primary method the government uses to identify us, and every year they are adding more "security features" to it. Most of the time when you are asked to produce you're driving licvence, it is not to show that you know how to drive, but to prove you are who you say you are.

[uwish]

there is not paperwork unless you intend to register it

and as for licenses, you can drive your car without one, get caught you get a fine and you will likely be able to call someone to come get your car.

get caught with any firearm without a license under any circumstance and it is 2 years in jail.

sound reasonable to you!

[DerbyX]

Registering firearms is a simple thing and a very reasonable thing. I favour gun ownership but if responsible owners want the right to own firearms then they should have to pass a competency & safety test and keep it up to date. They should also have no problem with a fair resitry.

If those conditions are not to their liking then I would be in favour of guns being illegal and gun owners brought to justice. Reasonable compromise is necessary unless you want to have people opposed to guns to continue growing in number and pushing for outright bans.

[uwish]

and as long as your registration or license doesn't expire then you are fine, if you forget or your application is lost or delayed you can face jail time without a firearm leaving your house.

still think that is reasonable?

I think not

[DerbyX]

uwish uwish:

and as long as your registration or license doesn't expire then you are fine, if you forget or your application is lost or delayed you can face jail time without a firearm leaving your house.

still think that is reasonable?

I think not

You are talking about the application of a registration law not the merits of it.

No I don't feel it is remotely fair to jail somebody for the trivial crime of failing to register. It should be a fine or confiscation at most.

The problem is when people like you attack the law rather then its application because that makes peole think you want no regulation or restriction of guns whatsoever.

Drug proponents learned years ago that simply pushing for stone cold legalization at once was to hard an obstacle. Thats why they pushed for lower and lower penalties and used logic to make their case. Its been pretty successful. Now they are pushing for "decriminalization". Not entirely legal but not exactly illegal either. Next will come legalization.

Unless you want to keep fighting the people who want to ban guns outright in a battleground that very much favours them, then compromise is the tactic to use.