[hwacker]

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

hwacker hwacker:

This kid could be alive today if it weren’t for the liberals in this country. A lot of crime could be dealt with very easily if the liberal would just get out of the way.

Yeah, the world would just be a Utopia with no murders or violence if only everyone had a gun.

Admit it, you don't give a shit about this "kid" - from the start all you've done is rant about guns.

Admit it, you don't give a fuck about anybody that gets killed, as long as people can't carry guns you can sleep at night.

At least I care about people before they get killed you don’t even after.

And yes I feel very sorry for the mother of this kid. You on the other hand can honestly say "well tough luck lady, he’s just a small statistic"

[ziggy]

My mom ran the greyhound depot out of her furniture store here where I live for about 30 years.Anyone who's travelled greyhound through #3 has probably met her.

I'm surprised there isnt more shit happening on the bus's.
Some of the stories the drivers used to tell when they came in were unreal.

[hwacker]

ziggy ziggy:

I read a different article where they said the guy was on top of him and had stabbed him repeatedly within seconds,now if you think you could have pulled a gun and saved this kids life then I have a story for you.

I had a boss once who would bet you he could drink a glass of beer faster then you could pour yours on the floor and he never lost.
Because when he said go you would hesitate for a second wondering where to throw it.He would have the empty glass on the table by then.

And you don't think people have the guts to empty a 9mm on a POS like this in seconds?

You’d be surprised

[romanP]

hwacker hwacker:

That’s exactly the road he's going down.

Not even close. You're making things up.

$1:

He thinks if cops are getting their guns taken away by criminals it can happen to a regular citizen.

Well, it can. It's not impossible. Holding a gun doesn't make you invincible.

$1:

Sure a professional race car driver can die in a car crash too.

They can, and do. I guess you don't remember Dale Earnhardt. Then again, you don't remember anything if it's convenient.

$1:

He’s just pulling out the liberal BS when as common sense approach to killing a crazy person is brought up.

You're just a whiny bitch who can't stand to admit that he's completely wrong all of the time.

$1:

This kid could be alive today if it weren’t for the liberals in this country.

Yes, that's right folks, nobody would ever kill anyone if the durned liburls weren't around.

$1:

A lot of crime could be dealt with very easily if the liberal would just get out of the way.
The liberals approach has never worked, they are just to stupid to admit defeat.

How about this. Next time someone is going to get stabbed, you get stabbed for them.

[romanP]

hwacker hwacker:

Admit it, you don't give a fuck about anybody that gets killed, as long as people can't carry guns you can sleep at night.

What about people that are downrange from a howitzer, hwacker? You don't care if those people get killed, even if they're completely innocent, as long as you can demonise them as being an "enemy."

$1:

At least I care about people before they get killed you don’t even after.

No you don't. You just have a fetish for killing criminals.

[DerbyX]

lily lily:

romanP romanP:

The only thing that would have stopped this is a metal detector at a bus depot. Unfortunately, not all bus depots are in locations where metal detectors are possible to install. Essentially, nothing would have stopped this. Shit happens, move on.

A metal detector wouldn't prevent someone from bringing a ceramic knife on board the bus.

Damn right. Those Liberal commies will try and steal our ceramic knives next.

Thats why I don't go anywhere without my mutated anthrax ... for duck hunting.

[Blue_Nose]

hwacker hwacker:

Admit it, you don't give a fuck about anybody that gets killed, as long as people can't carry guns you can sleep at night.

At least I care about people before they get killed you don’t even after.

And yes I feel very sorry for the mother of this kid. You on the other hand can honestly say "well tough luck lady, he’s just a small statistic"

I didn't say a damned thing about whether or not people should be permitted to carry guns. You're the one that's turned this tragedy into a political argument, not me.

[romanP]

DerbyX DerbyX:

lily lily:

romanP romanP:

The only thing that would have stopped this is a metal detector at a bus depot. Unfortunately, not all bus depots are in locations where metal detectors are possible to install. Essentially, nothing would have stopped this. Shit happens, move on.

A metal detector wouldn't prevent someone from bringing a ceramic knife on board the bus.

Damn right. Those Liberal commies will try ans steal our ceramic knives next.

Thats why I don't go anywhere without my mutated anthrax ... for duck hunting.

Fuck that, I'm nuking all of the anthills in my back yard. You should see how many holes I have in my walls from trying to kill fruit flies with a sledge hammer.

[emart]

even though i disagree with the death penalty, which you can argue against since this man did take another man's life so why not take his, some people really don't deserve to be walking and breathing and it would not sadden me one bit if they happened to die in a 'firearm related accident' or something of the sort while in police custody. some people are just so mentally unprepared for living i don't know if there is enough help in the world for them.

[ziggy]

hwacker hwacker:

ziggy ziggy:

I read a different article where they said the guy was on top of him and had stabbed him repeatedly within seconds,now if you think you could have pulled a gun and saved this kids life then I have a story for you.

I had a boss once who would bet you he could drink a glass of beer faster then you could pour yours on the floor and he never lost.
Because when he said go you would hesitate for a second wondering where to throw it.He would have the empty glass on the table by then.

And you don't think people have the guts to empty a 9mm on a POS like this in seconds?

You’d be surprised

They wouldnt have fast enough reflex's.You would probably have got her in your first gunfight if you were born 100 years ago.


If you were sitting next to me and i was going to stab you while sleeping I would say I had 4 or 5 seconds before someone could react.You would be on your way to fight the terrorists for those virgins.

[ridenrain]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

Riden and Burns, you are both extremists.

Charge him for murder.

Case closed.

Wow. You sort of missed a few after I finished posting, like Mr. Cut, paste and swear?

Unless Bernard Goetz was on the train, I doubt anyone would have stopped this before it happened. That said, I fully support some shocked passengers killing this man.

Just a reminder that we recently had a thread on Olson who still sends letters to taunt his victims. He's put in a cage for his parole hearings because he's so dangerous but he still gets his review and victims still attend at their own cost because they have so little faith in the justice system. Theory is, he will never get out and his rights to mail and a vote are protected.
Why bother to save these people.

[hurley_108]

uwish uwish:

that is complete and utter left wing fear mongering. 10 years of CCW in the US and their hasn't been ONE documented case of anything like that.

That argument just doesn't hold any water in logic or statistics.

You're completely off your rocker. Do a google search for "killed with his own gun", and you get pages and pages of results. Many are police officers, but some are civilians, and it's not restricted to the US. Fact is a gun that isn't present can't kill anyone. Pretending that an armed person cannot be disarmed and have their own weapon used against them is lunacy.

One interesting thing to note is that many of the results are for criminals who were shot with their own guns.

[Canadaka]

Video interview, if not already posted:
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/horrifi ... #clip70840

[BartSimpson]

DerbyX DerbyX:

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

hwacker hwacker:

Good motivation for hand guns. This POS would be dead if somebody on this bus had a gun.

And don't tell me this in one incident, tell that to the poor boys mother I’m sure she'll agree with you even though her boy is dead.

We can all see what a knife can do.

It’s all about the PERSON not the device used.

EXACTLY!!!!! Oh god i just agreed with you.

He is wrong though. It happened so fast and so unexpected that the boy was likely dead before anybody could have reacted and its just as likely that in the ensuing panic that person with a gun might have shot an innocent bystander or worse yet lost that gun with the killer getting it.

What a cowardly response. Please. You're not supposed to do anything because of a bunch of what-ifs? Do you ever even leave your house with this mindset?

$1:

Now sure someone could have shot the attacker dead and he certainly deserves death but here is something to think about.

With the attacker dead it is very likely the answers would have died with him and in senseless and tragic cases like this its often very important for the families to get answers for closure.

In addition we might lose the chance to idenify why it happened with the idea of preventing it from happening again.

What is it with liberals and their precious root causes? I COULD CARE LESS why this guy committed this murder. He's vermin and he needs to be put down and that won't happen in a country where being a g*ddamn serial killer isn't enough to keep you jail.

[DerbyX]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

What a cowardly response. Please. You're not supposed to do anything because of a bunch of what-ifs? Do you ever even leave your house with this mindset?

What is it with liberals and their precious root causes? I COULD CARE LESS why this guy committed this murder. He's vermin and he needs to be put down and that won't happen in a country where being a g*ddamn serial killer isn't enough to keep you jail.

Grow up.

Edit: I'm not going to waste my time going down this road despite the fact it makes perfect sense.

Now go back and read everything before you spout off uninformed BS to see that I agree with the death penalty and the right to defend oneself I simply hold that its not always black and white.