[Wada]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I see the powers that be, renmoved the rev.'s comments to the other side of the wall. Good thing.

I believe it was Chretien, the benevolent dictator, who introduced the term "legal chill".

Why would Chuck Cadman lie. He quite clearmy said that he wasn't bribed so why would you go with a reporter who wrote a book for paul martin? Better check with Shrieber, maybe he knows something about this one too.

Chuck Cadman didn't lie. He said he was not bribed. So what! He wasn't. He did not say that noone tried to bribe him. It was Mr. Harper who said that the representatives were offering a finacial package in hopes of winning him over. If there is any discrepancy it's about the amount offered and why it was offered.

[Benoit]

Cadman's daughter, Jodi Cadman, told CBC News that her father, a B.C. member of Parliament who was battling cancer at the time, discussed the offer with her and her mother because he couldn't talk about it publicly.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/02/ ... ml?ref=rss

[CanadianGigolo]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Prove it. Get Dion to say that outside of the house and it's lawsuit time.

The evidence comes from his widow, who is a CPC member.

I can only imagine the vile things you would say about her if she were a Liberal.

Your corrupt party tried to bribe a dying man to force an election.

Sorry for your luck.

The Liberal party has been sitting on this information for over a year. Their silence makes them as guilty. I am definitely not voting Liberal, now.

...good point!!!
The only reason this a topic is because a book is coming out on Cadman.

[Benoit]

CanadianGigolo CanadianGigolo:

The only reason this a topic is because a book is coming out on Cadman.

And this bribe can be the only reason why this book is coming out on this particular man.

[DerbyX]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Prove it Derby. Get those "rogue bureatcrats" into court.
What have you got? A book written by someone else, forewarded by martin, probably paid for by Liberals, based on a distraught confused wife.

At the same time you demand proof from us you put forth your own speculation as proof.

Your corrupt party tried to bribe a dying man.

Get over it.

Your corrupt party stole hundreds of millions of dollars of tax payer money, all under the name of national unity. And, if you think there wasn't bribe money floating around, you are still in partisan denial mode.

$1:

-Former Canadian Alliance MP Jim Hart took the party to court and settled after claiming he'd been offered $62,000 to quit his B.C. seat in July 2000 to make way for new party leader Stockwell Day. "My resignation was contingent upon this negotiation," Hart wrote Day in a letter obtained by the Liberal party.

-In 2002, Ezra Levant settled privately for nomination expenses with the Canadian Alliance after dropping his candidacy in Calgary Southwest to permit leader Stephen Harper a clear run in a byelection.

-In 2005, a prospective Conservative candidate in Ottawa claimed he'd been offered $50,000 for expenses to make way for a star Tory candidate. Harper publicly denied there was a deal, but a subsequent court case vindicated Allan Riddell's claim.

-In May 2005, Conservative MP Gurmant Grewal claimed he was offered a Liberal sinecure abroad or a Senate seat for his wife in return for scratching his budget vote. Grewal secretly taped the negotiations with then prime minister Paul Martin's chief of staff and Liberal cabinet minister Ujjal Dosanjh. An ethics inquiry ended up rebuking Grewal.

-Conservative MP Belinda Stronach crossed the Commons floor on May 17, 2005, in return for a seat in Martin's Liberal cabinet. Her vote, along with Cadman's, helped the Liberal minority survive for another half year.

-Freshly elected Liberal MP David Emerson abandoned the Liberals two weeks after the Jan. 23, 2006, election in return for a seat in Harper's Conservative cabinet.

-Ottawa Mayor Larry O'Brien is currently facing two counts of influence peddling involving allegations he dangled cash and a federal appointment to induce a fellow candidate to quit the municipal race in the fall of 2006. Terry Kilrea did quit, but did not accept the alleged offer. Conservative officials, including cabinet minister John Baird, insist no federal appointment was ever discussed or offered.

Lets not forget they tried to bribe a dying man in order to force an election, a despicable act.

I'm definately not voting CPC now.

[Benoit]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Lets not forget they tried to bribe a dying man in order to force an election, a despicable act.

criminal act

[ridenrain]

Prove it.

The man himself sais he was not bribed.
Looking at the proof, I find it more likely that Dosanhj bribed Cadman when he came over for tea. It's not like Dosanjh wasn't already a proven bagman, after his taped courting of CPC-MP Grewal.

After all, this story was broke shortly after Paul Martin got his advanced copy of the book, which he wrote the foreward in. It's worh considering that Cadman had nothing good to say about martin, nor did martin say anything good about any Reformer, Conservative, and especially a nobody independant. Why martin is now acting like some godfather is very suspicious.

I'm guessing the real proof will be when Donna Cadman crosses the floor to a Liberal cabinet post.

I wouldn't be suprised

$1:

When discerning who is telling the truth, who had more to lose and who had more to gain? Chuck Cadman by accepting a bribe and possibly being implicated as a "dirty" politician? Or the desperate strategists of Doug Finley and Tom Flanagan who would have done anything to end the 12-year Liberal dynasty?

[Wally_Sconce]

the Liberals were passing around platters of money like it was fucking popcorn...

...and......AND!!! .....They did it under the guise of a national unity program.

That kind of contempt for the tax payer deserves to be rewarded with 10 years of the Liberal party struggling, eventually having to reform itself and rename itself.

Voters did this to the conservatives, now its time to do the same with the liberals.

The only thing that is stopping us, is the card carrying liberals that don't fucking think before they vote.

[ridenrain]

Oops. I might be mistaken:

$1:

The Conservative Party's own insurance policy for its workers and staff is not available to MPs, since an MP is covered by parliamentary insurance:

Ryan Sparrow, a spokesman for the Conservative party, denies those allegations, and he adds that Cadman wouldn't have been eligible for life insurance under the party's plan.

"Members of parliament aren't eligible for life insurance form the Conservative party of Canada," Sparrow said.

Cadman would have been covered for life insurance as an MP, a job he held for more than six years prior to his death, which meant he was eligible for full retirement, survivor and life insurance benefits.

The basic life insurance policy for MPs, paid for by the government, is relatively modest, worth twice their last full year's salary - starting around $300,000.

It makes sense that MP's would have a plan but I'd swear that candidates would have some form of coverage while they were on the capaign trail.

[Wally_Sconce]

They did it under the guise of a national unity program!!!

That's what i hate about Liberals the most.

[Wally_Sconce]

They did it under the guise of a national unity program!!!

That's what i hate about Liberals the most.

[DerbyX]

Its so pathetic that you seem to think that all you have to do to excuse your parties despicable acts are to simply point the finger of blame at somebody else lest it exonerate you. lol.

BTW:

$1:

Consider the sponsorship scandal of 2004-05. Based on allegations that Martin's Liberals had been toll-gating government national unity funds, that scandal swung much of Quebec behind the Conservatives and ensured Harper's 2006 election victory.

But when Justice John Gomery's report on the affair finally came out, it concluded that Martin was blameless and that Martin's predecessor, Jean Chrétien, was guilty of nothing more than administrative sloppiness. Individuals had committed fraud. But there was no Liberal plot.

Or take the income trust scandal of 2005, when the RCMP announced that sensitive budget information may have been leaked from then Liberal finance minister Ralph Goodale's office in order to benefit speculators.

The opposition parties laid into Goodale. But eventually, he was exonerated.

[Bodah]

Derby has been awoken....

[youtube width=425 height=355]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AxPuUX50wk[/youtube]

[DerbyX]

This pretty much sums up the entire con response.

[web]http://youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I&feature=related[/web]

[ryan29]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Prove it Derby. Get those "rogue bureatcrats" into court.
What have you got? A book written by someone else, forewarded by martin, probably paid for by Liberals, based on a distraught confused wife.

At the same time you demand proof from us you put forth your own speculation as proof.

Your corrupt party tried to bribe a dying man.

Get over it.

Your corrupt party stole hundreds of millions of dollars of tax payer money, all under the name of national unity. And, if you think there wasn't bribe money floating around, you are still in partisan denial mode.

$1:

-Former Canadian Alliance MP Jim Hart took the party to court and settled after claiming he'd been offered $62,000 to quit his B.C. seat in July 2000 to make way for new party leader Stockwell Day. "My resignation was contingent upon this negotiation," Hart wrote Day in a letter obtained by the Liberal party.

-In 2002, Ezra Levant settled privately for nomination expenses with the Canadian Alliance after dropping his candidacy in Calgary Southwest to permit leader Stephen Harper a clear run in a byelection.

-In 2005, a prospective Conservative candidate in Ottawa claimed he'd been offered $50,000 for expenses to make way for a star Tory candidate. Harper publicly denied there was a deal, but a subsequent court case vindicated Allan Riddell's claim.

-In May 2005, Conservative MP Gurmant Grewal claimed he was offered a Liberal sinecure abroad or a Senate seat for his wife in return for scratching his budget vote. Grewal secretly taped the negotiations with then prime minister Paul Martin's chief of staff and Liberal cabinet minister Ujjal Dosanjh. An ethics inquiry ended up rebuking Grewal.

-Conservative MP Belinda Stronach crossed the Commons floor on May 17, 2005, in return for a seat in Martin's Liberal cabinet. Her vote, along with Cadman's, helped the Liberal minority survive for another half year.

-Freshly elected Liberal MP David Emerson abandoned the Liberals two weeks after the Jan. 23, 2006, election in return for a seat in Harper's Conservative cabinet.

-Ottawa Mayor Larry O'Brien is currently facing two counts of influence peddling involving allegations he dangled cash and a federal appointment to induce a fellow candidate to quit the municipal race in the fall of 2006. Terry Kilrea did quit, but did not accept the alleged offer. Conservative officials, including cabinet minister John Baird, insist no federal appointment was ever discussed or offered.

Lets not forget they tried to bribe a dying man in order to force an election, a despicable act.

I'm definately not voting CPC now.

as if you were considering voting cpc before anyways

and i could make a list of liberal scandals if i wanted to .

like david orchard incident , blair wilson overspending , sponsorship scandal , numerous ontario liberal scandals ,