[llama66]

Its criminal that there were safety features that were sold as optional.

[raydan]

llama66 llama66:

Its criminal that there were safety features that were sold as optional.

They have the same with cars.

But is it more criminal to sell optional safety features or to not buy them?

[llama66]

I think it criminal to sell it as optional. The average human is fucking retarded, and will equate "optional" as "not necessary"

[raydan]

Take it up with the FAA.

[llama66]

maybe I will

[raydan]

Let me know how that goes.

[Robair]

Boeing anti-stall software engaged repeatedly before Ethiopian Airlines crash: sources

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Boeing anti-stall software repeatedly forced down the nose of a doomed Ethiopian jet after pilots had turned it off, sources told Reuters, as investigators scrutinize the role played by technology and crew in the fatal March 10 crash.

[DrCaleb]

Making a plane that fundamentally can't fly because it is designed to be unstable might have been a mistake.

[llama66]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Making a plane that fundamentally can't fly because it is designed to be unstable might have been a mistake.

pfft. No.

[Robair]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Making a plane that fundamentally can't fly because it is designed to be unstable might have been a mistake.

It can fly without the computer, it's just really easy to put it into an excessively nose up attitude.

So much so that they were worried about stalling.

I'm still not going for a ride on one of these.

[llama66]

Robair Robair:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Making a plane that fundamentally can't fly because it is designed to be unstable might have been a mistake.

It can fly without the computer, it's just really easy to put it into an excessively nose up attitude.

So much so that they were worried about stalling.

I'm still not going for a ride on one of these.

wuss. It's probably mainly safeish.

[DrCaleb]

Robair Robair:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Making a plane that fundamentally can't fly because it is designed to be unstable might have been a mistake.

It can fly without the computer, it's just really easy to put it into an excessively nose up attitude.

So much so that they were worried about stalling.

I'm still not going for a ride on one of these.

I beg to differ. If they built it with unoptimal centres of pressure and mass that needs software to compensate; and that software keeps ploughing them into the ground, then I consider it can't fundamentally fly.

If I took my hands off the wheel of my car, and everytime I did it took a hard left into the ditch, I wouldn't drive it because it's fundamentally flawed.

But I agree, I'll stick to companies that fly Airbus aircraft for the time being.

[peck420]

Could they install airbags? Like the ones used to land the Mars rovers?

[DrCaleb]

peck420 peck420:

Could they install airbags? Like the ones used to land the Mars rovers?

Yes, but they would be the size of Rhode Island.



Case in point:

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To prevent the MCAS from continually pushing the nose down in the event of bad sensor data or some other software failure, Boeing instructed pilots to deactivate the system using procedures already in place for dealing with runaway stabilizer control systems in other 737 aircraft—flipping two stabilizer trim “cutout” switches to the “cutout” position. Failure to do so could result in the system pushing the stabilizers to their movement limit—putting the aircraft into a steep dive. The pilots of the Ethiopian Airlines flight did flip the cutout switches, and they cranked the controls to attempt to regain positive stabilizer control. But they continued to have difficulty controlling the aircraft.

It is not clear at this point whether the pilots purposely reactivated the MCAS’ stabilizer control or if the software reactivated on its own after shutdown. While a Wall Street Journal source said that it appeared the pilots turned the system back on in hopes of regaining control over the stabilizers, Reuters reports that the software may have reactivated without human intervention, and further investigations of that possibility are ongoing.

https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... -on-again/

The plane became possessed like 'Christine' and decided it was late for becoming a giant crater.

[peck420]

Foam injection? A la Demolition man?

Last one, I swear.