[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I agree it's scary but it's also full of promise as diseases can be prevented and the pharmaceutical companies stripped of their customer base as people no longer get sick.

Hmmm. Predatory companies that stifle innovation ending because of a lack of need for them.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Not to me it isn't. It'd be nice to live in a world where people simply don't need most of the things that the health care industry supplies.

[Sunnyways]

If a food item contains genetically engineered ingredients what is so threatening about stating that simple truth on the packet? Isn’t the industry proud of its achievements? It seems to me that big business and government don’t trust the public to come to the right conclusions about this information and thus withhold it.

[Tricks]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

If a food item contains genetically engineered ingredients what is so threatening about stating that simple truth on the packet? Isn’t the industry proud of its achievements? It seems to me that big business and government don’t trust the public to come to the right conclusions about this information and thus withhold it.

Because people are idiots. They don't actually understand what a GMO is. And you're right. They won't come to the right conclusion.


So what ends up happening is the fear mongering from anti-science quacks is louder than the scientists pointing out there is no issue with GMOs. It's like the anti-vaxxers. Then they get it in their head that gmos are bad, they get labelled, people stop buying them because of a misplaced fear, farmers suffer, and eventually gmos are taken off the shelves. It's already happened in Europe. It's a clusterfuck of stupid.

[ScottMayers]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

ScottMayers ScottMayers:

What does GMO mean to you?

To me it means genetic engineering - artificially introducing a gene into an organism from another organism of the same species or an organism of a different species. It is quite different from selective breeding where crosses of the same species are made and a desired phenotype is selected. In North America this distinction has been muddied.

I don’t have to prove harm to object to this fundamental change in my food. The global long-term effect of genetic engineering on humans and all other species is inherently unknowable. Nobody can say it’s perfectly safe yet. The sensible attitude to such a profound innovation is to be cautious.

There is always risk in life regarding genetics. But what is the function of labelling "GMO" on products when, as I mentioned, the average user won't interpret this to mean anything except for the negative rhetoric against it by those 'positively' labelling their own products "natural" and "organic", etc.? Those positive labels plus the campaign to label products genetically modified is only a tactic by the Alt-health companies attempting to sell homeopathic-like remedies more successfully by raising unnecessary doubt upon the less informed to resist medical technology that is useful.

If 'safe' is absolutely required, I say let's extend this to the 'safety' of those being suckered into making medical quacks rich by raising a religious-like doubt in the general functioning of science and technology. If "GMO" is added, lets add "Non-scientifically Justified" on products claiming to be healthy for merely being 'safe'. Distilled water is 'safe'. And, thus, by the standards of concerns of government to simply label a product 'safe' for some alt-medical remedy, this mechanism only assures the products one takes will not harm one if it is just plain water, for instance.

When the concern is about the potential long-term effects of anything unknown, I have an "unknown" concern about the long-term effects of humanity all together when we let ourselves choose pretty partners to have cute babies that need to be coddled in diapers and suck tit in longer than 'natural' periods!These endanger the progeny of the future children when they cannot handle a tougher world with more pollution and unlimited population growth.

[ScottMayers]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

If a food item contains genetically engineered ingredients what is so threatening about stating that simple truth on the packet? Isn’t the industry proud of its achievements? It seems to me that big business and government don’t trust the public to come to the right conclusions about this information and thus withhold it.

What's the matter with READING those ingredient labels that prior laws had established for those WANTING to know what is in their product for the reading. The informed interest of those concerned can already see if it contains nuts that they need to NECESSARILY to avoid hazzards for those most allergic. Putting the ingredient information up front in bolder terms only satisfies the lazy people not willing to read. (It's not like the ingredients are as those damn car commercials with the five-page waiver they place in uncontrasted colors in tiny unreadable letters for a second!)

[BeaverFever]

ScottMayers ScottMayers:

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

If a food item contains genetically engineered ingredients what is so threatening about stating that simple truth on the packet? Isn’t the industry proud of its achievements? It seems to me that big business and government don’t trust the public to come to the right conclusions about this information and thus withhold it.

What's the matter with READING those ingredient labels that prior laws had established for those WANTING to know what is in their product for the reading. The informed interest of those concerned can already see if it contains nuts that they need to NECESSARILY to avoid hazzards for those most allergic. Putting the ingredient information up front in bolder terms only satisfies the lazy people not willing to read. (It's not like the ingredients are as those damn car commercials with the five-page waiver they place in uncontrasted colors in tiny unreadable letters for a second!)

Because GMO is not an ingredient so is not in the ingredient list.

[Tricks]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

ScottMayers ScottMayers:

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

If a food item contains genetically engineered ingredients what is so threatening about stating that simple truth on the packet? Isn’t the industry proud of its achievements? It seems to me that big business and government don’t trust the public to come to the right conclusions about this information and thus withhold it.

What's the matter with READING those ingredient labels that prior laws had established for those WANTING to know what is in their product for the reading. The informed interest of those concerned can already see if it contains nuts that they need to NECESSARILY to avoid hazzards for those most allergic. Putting the ingredient information up front in bolder terms only satisfies the lazy people not willing to read. (It's not like the ingredients are as those damn car commercials with the five-page waiver they place in uncontrasted colors in tiny unreadable letters for a second!)

Because GMO is not an ingredient so is not in the ingredient list.

If it came out of the ground, you can bet it's a GMO.