[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

What I am doing is a comparison of reported temperatures in a local newspaper against what the NWS currently says those temperatures were and I am charting the heat island effect on ARC-GIS with historical maps that go back to 1891.

Where is the temperature in the paper recorded? Is it the same place every day? Is it to the same scale? Is it at the same time every day? What it the error rate for that data? What is the timescale?

Your study won't produce anything of meaning without knowing a lot more than your local paper gives you, and going back a lot further that that paper has probably existed for.

My study will give me a comparative historic record between what was reported at the time and what is being alleged to have occurred in the past now.

I'll also be able to map what weather stations were impacted by urbanization.

If you can't answer those questions, you won't have a 'study' worth your effort.

[BartSimpson]

Sagan's use of the word 'catastrophic' is purely emotional. So is your use of it.

As to the warming on Venus it was a 100% natural process and despite the claims that the warming was recent the fact remains, as you said, that we know very little about the planet. Therefore any claim that the climate on Venus is a recent phenomenon is purely speculative.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Sagan's use of the word 'catastrophic' is purely emotional. So is your use of it.

Sagan's use of it is dictionary perfect. Your interpretation of it is flawed.

$1:

adjective: catastrophic

1. involving or causing sudden great damage or suffering.
"a catastrophic earthquake"
involving a sudden and large-scale alteration in the state of something.
"the body undergoes catastrophic collapse toward the state of a black hole"
relating to geological catastrophism.
2.
extremely unfortunate or unsuccessful.
"catastrophic mismanagement of the economy"
synonyms: disastrous, calamitous, cataclysmic, apocalyptic, ruinous, tragic, fatal, dire, awful, terrible, dreadful

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

As to the warming on Venus it was a 100% natural process and despite the claims that the warming was recent the fact remains, as you said, that we know very little about the planet. Therefore any claim that the climate on Venus is a recent phenomenon is purely speculative.

No one said it wan't natural, and no one said it was recent.


Distractions is over now. Present evidence that the Warming Earth is experiencing is neither man influenced, nor dangerous, or whatever your interpretation is.

Be sure to show your work.