[fifeboy]

Let's see, tell me if I've got this right. Father Dickhead in Ohio rapes a 12 year old boy, therefore we should hate Mother Theresa. Brother Bob molests a 14 year old girl from his congragation, therefore we should hate the work of Christian charities. Did I get that right?

[N_Fiddledog]

Speaking of Milo...apparently he also has an opinion on this event coming from the gay male perspective.

$1:

The Left Chose Islam Over Gays. Now 100 People Are Dead Or Maimed In Orlando


Over 100 people have been killed or maimed at a gay dance club in Orlando by Omar Mateen, a Muslim terrorist. How many more innocent gays need to die before we admit that America, and the world, has an Islam problem?

I don’t mean a “radical Islam” problem or an “extremist Islam problem.” Violence is not the extreme in Islam any more: it’s the norm. The public’s patience for comments like the one below, from the dimwitted lesbian Sally Kohn, are wearing thin. As for mine, it’s long since run out.

EVERY religion has sub-groups of intolerant extremism. You can't tell me the problem is religion. The problem is intolerant extremism!

— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) June 12, 2016

Obama’s response to the tragedy today was similarly limp-wristed. He made no mention of Islam or Muslims, instead condemning “hate and terror” and taking a brazen swipe at gun rights activists by noting “how easy it is to let people get their hands on a weapon.”

He didn’t even address the uniquely homophobic character of the attack. What a good liberal!

There’s no more room for equivocating. The Orlando shooting isn’t just the deadliest terrorist attack on U.S. shores since 9/11. It is also, by far, the worst act of violent homophobia in the nation’s history and the deadliest mass shooting in America ever.

According to the murderer’s father, his son became angry after he saw two men kissing in the street. “This had nothing to do with religion,” said the father, Seddique Mateen. “He saw two men kissing each other in front of his wife and kid and he got very angry” — as if that was some kind of excuse.

That same father is on record defending the Taliban.

Orlando shooting suspect’s father hosted a political TV show and even tried to run for the Afghan presidency https://t.co/UFVA2x0prf

— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) June 12, 2016

What sort of a man gets so angry by displays of affection, joy, and love that he chooses to gun down innocent people in a nightclub? A Muslim man. And if this one isn’t particularly religious, imagine how much worse the faithful must be.

America has to make a choice. Does it want gay rights, women’s emancipation, and tolerance for people of all nonviolent faiths — or does it want Islam?

I hate to say I told you so, but I have been warning about this for years. Here’s me in November expressing concern at mass Muslim immigration.

Well @nero, you called Radical Islam coming for gays in the West next… https://t.co/O2jdWBZ9az

— Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) June 12, 2016

And here’s me on The Rubin Report refusing to make the distinction between Islam and Islamism.

[video at link]

These are dirty secrets the progressive Left and social justice warriors would rather you didn’t know. But the cat is now out of the bag.

Omar Mateen wasn’t just a homophobe, by the way. He was also a misogynist – a real one, not someone who offends feminists on Twitter – who repeatedly beat his ex-wife while they were married. Of course, as we saw in Cologne six months ago, this sort of behaviour is also the norm in Muslim cultures.

Needless to say, the Left is silent on the subject.

Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 12, 2016

A lot of people laughed at Donald Trump when he suggested a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country. No doubt they thought he was further harming his chances in the general election.

No one is laughing now. What’s more, I expect many are quietly wondering if the “temporary” ban might have to be permanent. Western capitalist democracy gave women and gays equal footing in society; Islam has arrived to roll the clock back.

Only one presidential candidate is being honest about it, which is why, if you are gay, there’s really only one choice in this election. (It was Latino night at the gay club, incidentally — Hispanics may wish to consider that, too.)

We’ve also learned in the past few hours that the killer was already being watched by the FBI. This happened in Brussels, too. Both times, the security services dropped the ball. Something tells me that they’d be a lot more vigilant, and a lot less lenient to their surveillance targets, under a Trump administration.

It’s not just gay people under threat. Atheist satirists in the west now live in fear of being executed because they drew the wrong cartoon. Women face the terrifying prospect of being attacked at night for wearing a short skirt.

The barbaric cultures of Raqqa, Riyadh, and Kabul now prowl the streets of Cologne, Paris, and Orlando, Florida.

Atheists, previously wedded to the political left, have started to grow sick of the constant Islam apologia. Left-leaning atheists like talk show host Dave Rubin and cult YouTuber Carl Benjamin have realised that the right is a greater ally against this barbaric, dark-age ideology than the left ever will be.

The LGBT “community” needs to confront the same problem and make its choice. If it continues to be a part of the left’s Neville Chaimberlain-esque attitude towards Islam, it will effectively be committing suicide.

Let’s be clear: Islam isn't our enemy. Hateful rhetoric against Muslims isn't just wrong—it plays into terrorists' hands. #GOPdebate

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 15, 2016

The Christian Right may not be totally down with homos, and Trump may say things that hurt our delicate feelings, but they aren’t going to kill us or put us in camps. Only Islam would do that — the same Islam that, bizarrely, now stands at the top of the left’s hierarchy of victimhood.

Liberals: the problem with putting Muslims at the top of your victimhood hierarchy is that THEY WANT TO KILL EVERYONE ELSE ON THE LIST

— Milo Yiannopoulos ✘ (@Nero) June 12, 2016


Of course the real story in Florida will be how people said mean things on the internet about Islam

— Milo Yiannopoulos ✘ (@Nero) June 12, 2016

Muslims are allowed to get away with almost anything. They can shut down and intimidate prominent ex-Muslims. They’re allowed to engage in the most brazen anti-semitism, even as they run for office in European left-wing political parties.

And, of course, politicians and the media routinely turn a blind eye to the kind of sexism and homophobia that would instantly end the career of a non-Muslim conservative — and perhaps get the latter arrested for hate speech when he dared to object.

We are now living with the consequences of that tolerance. Gays executed in nightclubs. Cartoonists lying in pools of blood. Women abused en masse.

Once again, this isn’t about “radical” Islam. This isn’t a tiny fringe. In Britain, a 2009 Gallup survey found that not one Muslim believed that homosexual acts were acceptable. Not one! And another poll this year revealed that over half of British Muslims believe gay sex should be illegal.

96 per cent of Palestinians believe that homosexuality is an unacceptable lifestyle choice, according to Pew Global data — making “Queers for Palestine” perhaps the dumbest movement since Semites for National Socialism.

Unspeakably fucking stupid. pic.twitter.com/NX0YqskSk5

— Milo Yiannopoulos ✘ (@Nero) June 12, 2016

So, most Muslims think I’m unacceptable. Fine. I also think their religion is unacceptable. And not just “radicals” and “extremists” — their entire, barbaric, backwards ideology. 100 million people live in Muslim countries where homosexuality is punishable by death.

We can’t go on like this. We can’t live in an America where gays fear going to night clubs, where satirists fear execution for their speech, where cartoonists consider whether their next drawing might get them killed.

Today’s killings prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that we need to give particular scrutiny to certain faiths. Gays, apostates, and women are tired of being abused, harassed, and murdered by followers of the “religion of peace.”

And politicians have to stop lying about the link between Islam and these horrific acts.

The gay Establishment, run by far-left wackos, is of course part of the problem too. It constantly makes excuses for Islam instead of sticking up for the people it’s supposed to protect.

Wake up, faggots. The political Left is part of the problem.

[/i]Saddle up, homos. If the media and politicians won't protect us, it's time to protect ourselves. pic.twitter.com/Ud5yUXj5lE

— Milo Yiannopoulos ✘ (@Nero) June 12, 2016[/i]

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/1 ... d-orlando/

So does Milo get one of these...

$1:

fifeboy fifeboy:

Thank you for that!

for his gay perspective Fifey.

[Thanos]

If their ideology influences and encourages someone into dangerous or lethal behaviour towards others then you're damn right they're responsible. If some Tea Partier stoked up on Tea Party hatred of Obama got through security and shot the president would you pretend that the rhetoric at those rallies and on those websites had nothing to do with it? If this thing in Orlando had been done by some cracker who grew up in some Talibaptist hate church would you be as forgiving to that church as you are to Islam?

Words have consequences. Muslims don't deserve an exemption from condemnation when the hate-filled words, of which there are too many to count, in their religion cause the mass deaths of others. Liberals placing Muslims at the top of today's bunch of designated "victims" of bigotry doesn't change that in the slightest.

[shockedcanadian]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Let's see, tell me if I've got this right. Father Dickhead in Ohio rapes a 12 year old boy, therefore we should hate Mother Theresa. Brother Bob molests a 14 year old girl from his congragation, therefore we should hate the work of Christian charities. Did I get that right?

Let's not confuse this. If there's a Christian group that is directing, inspiring and openly cutting off peoples heads and killing innocent people, it is the duty of civilized society to destroy them. I will applaud any efforts to eradicate any such cowardly terrorists. Obviously, the peaceful Muslim, Christian, Jew, Atheist, Hindu aren't the problem. The radicals are.

There are distinct characteristics of these types of mass killing terrorists. We can see all the common threads and assume they don't exist I suppose. It won't help to prevent the next attack by thinking this way though. Just as we can't broadly paint all with one brush, we can't foolishly put our heads in the sand either. Unless any of us are willing to call the family members of the next attack that their son/daughter has been killed.

[andyt]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

But of course since conservatives live on a toxic mixture of selective amnesia and deliberate lies, I imagine I'll have to say it 1000 more times.

Nope. They just live in this place:

Sad, really. The colors are incredible.

[andyt]

fifeboy fifeboy:

Let's see, tell me if I've got this right. Father Dickhead in Ohio rapes a 12 year old boy, therefore we should hate Mother Theresa. Brother Bob molests a 14 year old girl from his congragation, therefore we should hate the work of Christian charities. Did I get that right?

You couldn't have got it more wrong. Those are examples of a few bad apples in the good religion of Christianity. Now of those had been Muslims, it would only further go to prove what an evil religion Islam is. Try to keep up.

[Freakinoldguy]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Just a few months ago ISIS tossed two gay lovers off of a building. These savages and their cowardly followers don't give a damn about equal rights or democracy for women, gays, non-Islamics.

But if you were to believe BF the Republicans are doing the same as we speak.

[Khar]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

So does Milo get one of these...

$1:

fifeboy fifeboy:

Thank you for that!

for his gay perspective Fifey.

So all I provided was a gay perspective?

Considering Fifeboy didn't like my post because I was gay, but because of what was in it, I think that says something about you, and not him.

[fifeboy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Speaking of Milo...apparently he also has an opinion on this event coming from the gay male perspective.

$1:

The Left Chose Islam Over Gays. Now 100 People Are Dead Or Maimed In Orlando


Over 100 people have been killed or maimed at a gay dance club in Orlando by Omar Mateen, a Muslim terrorist. How many more innocent gays need to die before we admit that America, and the world, has an Islam problem?

I don’t mean a “radical Islam” problem or an “extremist Islam problem.” Violence is not the extreme in Islam any more: it’s the norm. The public’s patience for comments like the one below, from the dimwitted lesbian Sally Kohn, are wearing thin. As for mine, it’s long since run out.

EVERY religion has sub-groups of intolerant extremism. You can't tell me the problem is religion. The problem is intolerant extremism!

— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) June 12, 2016

Obama’s response to the tragedy today was similarly limp-wristed. He made no mention of Islam or Muslims, instead condemning “hate and terror” and taking a brazen swipe at gun rights activists by noting “how easy it is to let people get their hands on a weapon.”

He didn’t even address the uniquely homophobic character of the attack. What a good liberal!

There’s no more room for equivocating. The Orlando shooting isn’t just the deadliest terrorist attack on U.S. shores since 9/11. It is also, by far, the worst act of violent homophobia in the nation’s history and the deadliest mass shooting in America ever.

According to the murderer’s father, his son became angry after he saw two men kissing in the street. “This had nothing to do with religion,” said the father, Seddique Mateen. “He saw two men kissing each other in front of his wife and kid and he got very angry” — as if that was some kind of excuse.

That same father is on record defending the Taliban.

Orlando shooting suspect’s father hosted a political TV show and even tried to run for the Afghan presidency https://t.co/UFVA2x0prf

— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) June 12, 2016

What sort of a man gets so angry by displays of affection, joy, and love that he chooses to gun down innocent people in a nightclub? A Muslim man. And if this one isn’t particularly religious, imagine how much worse the faithful must be.

America has to make a choice. Does it want gay rights, women’s emancipation, and tolerance for people of all nonviolent faiths — or does it want Islam?

I hate to say I told you so, but I have been warning about this for years. Here’s me in November expressing concern at mass Muslim immigration.

Well @nero, you called Radical Islam coming for gays in the West next… https://t.co/O2jdWBZ9az

— Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) June 12, 2016

And here’s me on The Rubin Report refusing to make the distinction between Islam and Islamism.

[video at link]

These are dirty secrets the progressive Left and social justice warriors would rather you didn’t know. But the cat is now out of the bag.

Omar Mateen wasn’t just a homophobe, by the way. He was also a misogynist – a real one, not someone who offends feminists on Twitter – who repeatedly beat his ex-wife while they were married. Of course, as we saw in Cologne six months ago, this sort of behaviour is also the norm in Muslim cultures.

Needless to say, the Left is silent on the subject.

Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 12, 2016

A lot of people laughed at Donald Trump when he suggested a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country. No doubt they thought he was further harming his chances in the general election.

No one is laughing now. What’s more, I expect many are quietly wondering if the “temporary” ban might have to be permanent. Western capitalist democracy gave women and gays equal footing in society; Islam has arrived to roll the clock back.

Only one presidential candidate is being honest about it, which is why, if you are gay, there’s really only one choice in this election. (It was Latino night at the gay club, incidentally — Hispanics may wish to consider that, too.)

We’ve also learned in the past few hours that the killer was already being watched by the FBI. This happened in Brussels, too. Both times, the security services dropped the ball. Something tells me that they’d be a lot more vigilant, and a lot less lenient to their surveillance targets, under a Trump administration.

It’s not just gay people under threat. Atheist satirists in the west now live in fear of being executed because they drew the wrong cartoon. Women face the terrifying prospect of being attacked at night for wearing a short skirt.

The barbaric cultures of Raqqa, Riyadh, and Kabul now prowl the streets of Cologne, Paris, and Orlando, Florida.

Atheists, previously wedded to the political left, have started to grow sick of the constant Islam apologia. Left-leaning atheists like talk show host Dave Rubin and cult YouTuber Carl Benjamin have realised that the right is a greater ally against this barbaric, dark-age ideology than the left ever will be.

The LGBT “community” needs to confront the same problem and make its choice. If it continues to be a part of the left’s Neville Chaimberlain-esque attitude towards Islam, it will effectively be committing suicide.

Let’s be clear: Islam isn't our enemy. Hateful rhetoric against Muslims isn't just wrong—it plays into terrorists' hands. #GOPdebate

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 15, 2016

The Christian Right may not be totally down with homos, and Trump may say things that hurt our delicate feelings, but they aren’t going to kill us or put us in camps. Only Islam would do that — the same Islam that, bizarrely, now stands at the top of the left’s hierarchy of victimhood.

Liberals: the problem with putting Muslims at the top of your victimhood hierarchy is that THEY WANT TO KILL EVERYONE ELSE ON THE LIST

— Milo Yiannopoulos ✘ (@Nero) June 12, 2016


Of course the real story in Florida will be how people said mean things on the internet about Islam

— Milo Yiannopoulos ✘ (@Nero) June 12, 2016

Muslims are allowed to get away with almost anything. They can shut down and intimidate prominent ex-Muslims. They’re allowed to engage in the most brazen anti-semitism, even as they run for office in European left-wing political parties.

And, of course, politicians and the media routinely turn a blind eye to the kind of sexism and homophobia that would instantly end the career of a non-Muslim conservative — and perhaps get the latter arrested for hate speech when he dared to object.

We are now living with the consequences of that tolerance. Gays executed in nightclubs. Cartoonists lying in pools of blood. Women abused en masse.

Once again, this isn’t about “radical” Islam. This isn’t a tiny fringe. In Britain, a 2009 Gallup survey found that not one Muslim believed that homosexual acts were acceptable. Not one! And another poll this year revealed that over half of British Muslims believe gay sex should be illegal.

96 per cent of Palestinians believe that homosexuality is an unacceptable lifestyle choice, according to Pew Global data — making “Queers for Palestine” perhaps the dumbest movement since Semites for National Socialism.

Unspeakably fucking stupid. pic.twitter.com/NX0YqskSk5

— Milo Yiannopoulos ✘ (@Nero) June 12, 2016

So, most Muslims think I’m unacceptable. Fine. I also think their religion is unacceptable. And not just “radicals” and “extremists” — their entire, barbaric, backwards ideology. 100 million people live in Muslim countries where homosexuality is punishable by death.

We can’t go on like this. We can’t live in an America where gays fear going to night clubs, where satirists fear execution for their speech, where cartoonists consider whether their next drawing might get them killed.

Today’s killings prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that we need to give particular scrutiny to certain faiths. Gays, apostates, and women are tired of being abused, harassed, and murdered by followers of the “religion of peace.”

And politicians have to stop lying about the link between Islam and these horrific acts.

The gay Establishment, run by far-left wackos, is of course part of the problem too. It constantly makes excuses for Islam instead of sticking up for the people it’s supposed to protect.

Wake up, faggots. The political Left is part of the problem.

[/i]Saddle up, homos. If the media and politicians won't protect us, it's time to protect ourselves. pic.twitter.com/Ud5yUXj5lE

— Milo Yiannopoulos ✘ (@Nero) June 12, 2016[/i]

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/1 ... d-orlando/

So does Milo get one of these...

$1:

fifeboy fifeboy:

Thank you for that!

for his gay perspective Fifey.

To tell you the truth Doggy, I had to wiki this guy. Very strange dude, and almost as full of himself as you are. Khar, otoh, has been producing opinions, some I agree and some I don't, for about six years. Go figure, eh!

[N_Fiddledog]

[fifeboy]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

fifeboy fifeboy:

Let's see, tell me if I've got this right. Father Dickhead in Ohio rapes a 12 year old boy, therefore we should hate Mother Theresa. Brother Bob molests a 14 year old girl from his congragation, therefore we should hate the work of Christian charities. Did I get that right?

Let's not confuse this. If there's a Christian group that is directing, inspiring and openly cutting off peoples heads and killing innocent people, it is the duty of civilized society to destroy them. I will applaud any efforts to eradicate any such cowardly terrorists. Obviously, the peaceful Muslim, Christian, Jew, Atheist, Hindu aren't the problem. The radicals are.

There are distinct characteristics of these types of mass killing terrorists. We can see all the common threads and assume they don't exist I suppose. It won't help to prevent the next attack by thinking this way though. Just as we can't broadly paint all with one brush, we can't foolishly put our heads in the sand either. Unless any of us are willing to call the family members of the next attack that their son/daughter has been killed.

Well, once again I need to thank someone for writing a sensible opinion. Yes, attack radical Islam because they do not fit into any concept of civilized society, but do not attack those Muslims who live amongst us who are just living ordinary lives.

[N_Fiddledog]

This is going to surprise you Fifey (or maybe not ) but I subscribe to 2 transexuals on YouTube.

No, it's not because I've got a secret. It's because these 2 are counter-SJWs and they say smart things. Believe it or not there's Liberals I subscribe to too.

But my Tranny YouTubers impress me. I'm even willing to call them "she" (just because they seem to prefer it.)

Here's one of my girls, and she's upset about today's events...

[herbie]

The guy was an American.
He hated gays.
He had the right to buy weapons for mass killing.
And he killed and wounded over 100 people.

Let's only discuss his religion. Nothing else is worth looking at.

[andyt]

herbie herbie:

The guy was an American.
He hated gays.
He had the right to buy weapons for mass killing.
And he killed and wounded over 100 people.

Let's only discuss his religion. Nothing else is worth looking at.

Well if you don't bring up his religion, he's just another American mass killer - they get one a day of those. Not remarkable, who cares. But if he's Muslim, then you've really got something to foam about. Because Islam.

[BRAH]

Khar Khar:

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

No, but that's not really special here, is it?

Whenever a mass shooter commits his crime, his victims get 15 minutes on television and the shooter will get 15 days. It doesn't matter that most criminal experts, psychologists, and law enforcement officials recommend against that in the prevention of future crimes, nor how morally outrageous it is that shooters get levels of celebrity, nothing will stand between the media and their new mugshot for the next two weeks of macabre.

Just plain disgusting.

BRAH BRAH:

The truth is LGBTQ's in the Middle East live in hiding with targets on their backs with the fear of being executed or punished for who they are. Until the Left accepts this we're F****d!

BRAH BRAH:

$1:

The liberal gay community calls men like me "bigots," and sucks up to Muslim terrorists. That's reality. Take ownership of your choices.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/742106021045411840

BRAH BRAH:

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

Whom are you referring to? Those on the Right and even the Left are tired of seeing innocent people killed by Radical Islamic Terrorists while the usual suspects continue to live in denial.

The GLBT community is more than aware of just how dangerous the world is for us. We get shot in the USA, stabbed in Israel, firebombed in the Balkans, stoned in Eastern Europe, arrested across Asia and murdered across South America and Africa. We're also active in trying to change that, or protesting that; we protest ISIS, still go to events and parades in countries full of fundamentalists who attack them year after year, and still go to clubs like this one, even after arsons, shootings like this one, or being tortured for being seen at them in the last handful of years in the USA alone.

Guess it's time to finally care, because Muslims are involved. Gee, talk about blinders.

The gay community is more than aware of exactly who hate us, and the idea that we are unaware or silent on the issues facing us is fucking hilarious. Then again, usually the complaint about the community is that we are too loud, that we don't need a pride parade because we have nothing to advocate for. The gay community doesn't suck up to terrorists. A majority of gay people who are used to being shit on by people are well aware that no man represents everyone in their ethnicity, or their religion, or their orientation, what have you. We're used to being the target of just about every horrible regime or shitty fundamentalist group on the face of the planet. We're also used to people finding out we're gay, and immediately equating that to meaning we're pedohpiles, or animal fuckers, or scatters, or that we're mentally unstable. The idea that, as a community, we can accept that there are those who are Muslim who aren't terrorists seems to confuse far too many people in these situations given our own background.

This is because not all Muslims are terrorists. A lot of Muslims are gay. Saying that is all too often equivocated with "there are no Muslim terrorists." Yes, the gay community is well aware of the hatred many fundamentalists have of us. Every month or year there's some sort of massacre or something similar that reminds us of it. No, we're not clueless. There are gays who believe that Islam is evil in and of itself. There are others who believe that of all religion. Others who are religious. Many more who believe you can't judge a person based on their religion or religious peers. There's a pretty damning duality, though, when we watch the same people who have been calling for lakes of fire and hell on damnation on all of us queers and see those same people call for the ban of Muslims, etc, even though the mass majority don't have a criminal record, let alone a reputation for extremism, in the United States.

103 people are dead or injured, and their deaths are overshadowed with snarky comments about gay people learning their lesson about Muslims. Just how sad is that? What wonderful condolences to the friends and families of victims of this atrocity.

LGBTQ's in the Middle East live in hiding with targets on their backs with the fear of being persecuted for who they are. Where's the Left's outrage when ISIS throws gay men off buildings? No where, not one word because it's not in their back yard and that's the truth.