JaredMilne JaredMilne:
Hey, it's all good, buddy. I myself shouldn't have responded the way I did, much less downrated your rep (is there any way to fix that?)
meh i'm not big on the ribbons, but i use the thing like a message thingamabob.
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The issue is something I feel very strongly about too, albeit for different reasons.
In reading what follows,I do not see any different reasons
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Canadian unity is probably my biggest passion in life. I am not a francophone like you,
I do not consider myself a francophone but a Canadian with 7 various ethnic decants kicking about. That I know of.
It took my mother's losing her purse and the subsequent ID rehash to find out I have Dutch in my background.
This week I shall celebrate St. Patrick's day with getting blathered and ingesting this meat laced with nitrates.
How this event takes place during lent is beyond me. But you gotta love the Irish!!!! Grand Mother was a staunch IRA supporter, who hid guys for years on the lamb in Canada. There is a whole book in that . took me years to come to terms with it all, and i vacillated equally between some arcane romantic tie and down right disgust for the murderous bastards all terrorists are. Oops those guys were army guys. still vacillating and confused at times.
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but I am a francophile-learning French and growing up as I did during the referendum controversies of the late '80s and '90s, I developed an innate liking of francophone Canadian culture, and I was puzzled as to why so many Quebecers wanted to leave so badly. That grew into an interest in other aspects of Canadian history and politics, like Western alienation.
Hopefully we can share our ideas. I learned from you and you have to realize i am uneducated and thirst for real knowledge.
Your posting Richler's piece on the Orphans says so much about people who grew up in Montreal. Surely that was born from a prejudice and a direct jab at a people's heritage. Where as the reality is based on beauty, he defamed it and the question is why?
GRRRR!!!
then of course the danger in his position as he states he is a professor which makes it an edict!!!
There is a deep divide between Jews and the French in Quebec, so sad….
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In studying the Franco-Quebecois perspective, I developed quite a bit of sympathy for where many federalists were coming from, and I even became sympathetic to the language laws. In studying the history of other parts of Canada, I also saw how the rights of francophones outside Quebec were often systematically violated and promises were broken, which is one of the big reasons separatism took root in the first place.
I see where you are coming from. and Agree but not entirely.
In order for me to come to grips with the language laws , i look towards the bra burning of the early 60's as a means to kick start the revolution of women.. always the wheel turns with a huge shove to get it turning.
But there are inane instances where people were fined large sums due to draconian implementation. Which really wasn't that necessary. But go to Montreal and hear someone say "Avez vous une flat tire ?" or "Don un hot dog all dresse" and see why it was needed, mon chum.
i don;t see the trampling on the french rights outside quebec as a real spurn to sovereignty . if they really cared , it would be to enforce the stability of the union and go that route to "Save" them from this.
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You are quite right in noting how the British agreed to let francophone Canadians continue to maintain their culture, language and religion, but that was often against the desires of a lot of Britons who wanted nothing more than to assimilate them all.
Yeah and the exodus to Louisiana is without a doubt based on those real fears.
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Dalton McCarthy expressed the views of many English speakers when he was quoted as saying that if francophones were not assimilated at the ballot box in his generation, it would have to be done with bayonets in the next. It was sympathetic Anglos like Robert Baldwin, John A. Macdonald and Guy Carleton that teamed up with Francophone leaders to prevent this from happening.
Which begs us to see how real Canadian values and our unique indifference and compassion for others developed.
these men shaped the Canada the world loves. *takes a chance for a shot at Harperism* we are slowly losing that due to Harper's foreign policies adopted from American style and his closing and merging of embassies around the world , to say the least.
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And to my mind, just as there is Francophone bigotry out there even today, there is also Anglophone bigotry as well, some of it very much directed at Francophones. Just look at the public "support" Richler got in that book page I quoted in my last post.
Yes, indeed.
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This is why I've played Devil's Advocate for Quebec so often on various forums-I sympathize with federalists like the Dions, Claude Ryan and André Laurendeau and I've tried to explain their point of view to people outside Quebec. I don't want to lose Quebec any more than I want to lose Alberta, the Yukon or New Brunswick-you guys are, after all, my kin and countrymen. (I'll touch on this in a post I'm planning for sometime next week, but if Quebec were to leave I think that the rest of the country would suffer some major economic problems too...but that's a rant for another day.)
You really express my feelings beautifully. I have read this post a few times now due to it's hitting so many chords in my being.