[raydan]

These home ground Muslims terrorists really don't understand that who they're hurting the most is other Muslims.

[andyt]

They don't care, since they see any Muslim that isn't doing what they are as collaborators or sheep.

The various left terrorists in Europe in the 70's had as an aim to turn their country hard right and crack down on civil liberties. The idea was that the repression would finally cause a revolution against the right. I think the jihadis, those that can think, have similar aims, which is why it's such a mistake to try to just out asshole the assholes.

[N_Fiddledog]

$1:

“There was only a few people at first then traffic began to build up because people were getting out of their cars to shout at them they were taking no notice, they were standing there, I think they were proud of what they were doing.

“When they dumped the body in the road, these two black guys had the opportunity to hurt other people if they wanted to because there were brave women with the dead guy on the floor, they were shielding and covering him. The attackers with the knives were standing over these women.

“The guy with the gun, the tall guy with the beanie cap on, even a bus had pulled up — he was going over to the bus and asking people to take his photo.”

Then the killers allowed only women to come forward to succor the dead or dying man:

He said: “My friend and her mum were walking up the hill and the mum came straight to the victim.

She asked the black guys can I help him? And one of them said he was already dead but she could go.

Then one of them said ‘No man is coming near this body, only women’.”

“She was so brave, she didn’t care what happened to her — she knelt down by his side and comforted him.

She held his hand and put her other hand on his chest. I think she might have been praying.

My friend (the woman’s daughter) was crying her eyes out. The victim was wearing a Help for Heroes T-shirt.”

Mr. Tallant said the two men were walking up to people with cameras so they could be seen and filmed.

He said: “They wanted people to know who they were.”

The women came forward. Children in nearby schools were locked down by their teachers.

This incident illustrates, if nothing else, the endpoint of the social engineering of the West. It has been remarkably effective.

From a certain point of view, the British crowd behaved perfectly and this is the way “they” all want us to behave. The populace sheltered in place, didn’t do anything rash, talked to the perpetrators as people. They waited for the police to come and the hospital helicopter to take the corpse away. Some will doubtless get counseling to overcome their shattering experience.

And then they will congratulate themselves on how tough British society is; resilience and all that. The more caring will leave some flowers by a railing and hold a few candle vigils for healing and peace, until these wither and blow away and the news cycle washes up a new object of attention.

The attackers knew they were actors in a drama — as keenly watched in their communities as on the BBC. And in that other audience they were asking: “How will the locals behave?” We know now. And that other audience may derive an entirely different lesson from this tableau: “See? Only their women act like men. They follow orders. They are nothing anymore — these Westerners. They are a civilization whose core has been destroyed.”

And would they be right? Who will be the judge? Per C.S. Lewis:

And all the time — such is the tragi-comedy of our situation — we continue to clamor for those very qualities we are rendering impossible. You can hardly open a periodical without coming across the statement that what our civilization needs is more “drive”, or dynamism, or self-sacrifice, or “creativity”. In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.

What could go wrong?

http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/201 ... -the-west/

On the other hand...

Think these Jihadi indoctrinated clowns will ever be ordering men to the outside in a conceal/carry state in America?

[PluggyRug]

Lemmy Lemmy:

andyt andyt:

Necessary evils to turn us into barbarians? I sure hope not, because that is what they want to do. Money to follow a justice system is not wasted. Their rights didn't end when they attacked that soldier, nor should they. That's part of living in a civilized society. What you're proposing, as I said, is how they organize themselves - we're better than that.

As for the death penalty, it's been shown not to work. It's especially stupid to think it will deter jihadis who want to go to heaven.

Legal rights and the justice system are for human beings. Anyone who'd perpetrate such an act doesn't qualify. Shoot, kill, dispose of, move on.

Exactly! Nice nutshell there.

[Zipperfish]

andyt andyt:

Poorer Muslim countries? Saudi Arabians have never been involved in this sort of shit? Most jihadis are middle class.

Britain's problem is that they're stuck with the Commonwealth, and that they allowed this problem to fester for years because it was out of sight/mind. Not anymore. Let's hope they come up with solutions that actually work, rather than just jerking their knees or what have you.

Pakistan, Afghanistan, predominately Muslim North African countries. Any countries that like to bag their women prior to letting them go outside.

[BRAH]

This and the Boston bombing is the future of things to come with home grown Terrorism which could happen in Canada.

[Thanos]

Going by those assholes who tried to blow up that train from Ontario to the US, Canada already has some of those scum here.

[Gunnair]

Lemmy Lemmy:

andyt andyt:

Necessary evils to turn us into barbarians? I sure hope not, because that is what they want to do. Money to follow a justice system is not wasted. Their rights didn't end when they attacked that soldier, nor should they. That's part of living in a civilized society. What you're proposing, as I said, is how they organize themselves - we're better than that.

As for the death penalty, it's been shown not to work. It's especially stupid to think it will deter jihadis who want to go to heaven.

Legal rights and the justice system are for human beings. Anyone who'd perpetrate such an act doesn't qualify. Shoot, kill, dispose of, move on.

I'm curious what kind of justice system you are proposing and I'm not sure why you'd end at these guys. How about all the others who kill? Are you proposing summary execution for anyone who kills another? Where are your arcs of fire here?

[Gunnair]

Thanos Thanos:

Going by those assholes who tried to blow up that train from Ontario to the US, Canada already has some of those scum here.

By tried you mean talked about?

[Gunnair]

BRAH BRAH:

This and the Boston bombing is the future of things to come with home grown Terrorism which could happen in Canada.

Whew. I was thinking, wow, it's been a bit since we had some inflammatory panic around here.

[BRAH]

Thanos Thanos:

Going by those assholes who tried to blow up that train from Ontario to the US, Canada already has some of those scum here.

Yep and apologists will continue to defend them.

[BRAH]

Gunnair Gunnair:

BRAH BRAH:

This and the Boston bombing is the future of things to come with home grown Terrorism which could happen in Canada.

Whew. I was thinking, wow, it's been a bit since we had some inflammatory panic around here.

It's not panic it's a possible reality yet it doesn't mean every Muslim is out to commit acts of Terrorism because who else is going to cut my hair so perfect besides my favourite Muslim barbers instead of the big breasted hair dressers?

[Gunnair]

BRAH BRAH:

Gunnair Gunnair:

BRAH BRAH:

This and the Boston bombing is the future of things to come with home grown Terrorism which could happen in Canada.

Whew. I was thinking, wow, it's been a bit since we had some inflammatory panic around here.

It's not panic it's a possible reality yet it doesn't mean every Muslim is out to commit acts of Terrorism because who else is going to cut my hair so perfect besides my favourite Muslim barbers instead of the big breasted hair dressers?

Yeah. It's panic. You have better odds being hit by a bus than hacked up by a Muslic fundie.

[Gunnair]

BRAH BRAH:

Thanos Thanos:

Going by those assholes who tried to blow up that train from Ontario to the US, Canada already has some of those scum here.

Yep and apologists will continue to defend them.

There's apologists for them?

[bambu]

This is where pussyfooting around with hate preachers, members of banned terrorist groups, and thugs gets you;


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... scene.html

Betrayal of a hero father: How MI5 spent EIGHT YEARS watching violent ex-prisoner who preached outside Poundland just yards from murder scene only days before soldier was hacked to death


. MI5 had been monitoring two fanatics responsible for SE London killing
. One fanatic was photographed behind hate preacher Anjem Choudary
. Michael Adebolajo, 28, was also a member of a banned terrorist group
. He was said to have preached jihad in Woolwich just earlier this week
. Close to where married father Lee Rigby was beheaded on Wednesday
. Second suspect named last night in reports as Michael Adebowale, 22


One of the pair – Michael Adebolajo – was so high profile he was photographed outside Paddington Green police station six years ago behind notorious hate preacher Anjem Choudary.
He was even intercepted by officials as he attempted to travel to Somalia to fight alongside Islamist terrorists last year.

It also emerged that Adebolajo was a violent ex-prisoner who was a member of a banned terrorist group.
Incredibly, he was said to have been preaching jihad on the streets of Woolwich earlier this week, only a few hundred yards from where 25-year-old Army Drummer Lee Rigby – a married father – was beheaded.


Previously: Michael Adebolajo was in a group of Muslim extremists who fought with police outside the Old Bailey in 2006. He had been arguing that he had the right to 'behead those who insult Islam'.

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Watching, monitoring, looking into...next minute a young soldier is hacked to death and beheaded on the streets of London.

Doing is what's required.