[Brenda]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Brenda Brenda:

Right. The actual BILLS are not being paid when there just is no work. When there are 200 people applying for the same job.

Then you try to beat the other 199 people and you also keep looking. Having been laid off five times between 2000 and 2009 I can say that I've been there and done that.

How many dependents do you have again?
How many wives that home school your kids?

[BartSimpson]

Brenda Brenda:

How many dependents do you have again?
How many wives that home school your kids?

That's my point. It's just Lisa and I and regardless of what my employer does I have responsibilities. Someone with kids has MORE responsibilities and even less reason to sit on his butt instead of hitting the bricks to find a new job.

Sitting around and acting like a victim is not always an option.

[Brenda]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Brenda Brenda:

How many dependents do you have again?
How many wives that home school your kids?

That's my point. It's just Lisa and I and regardless of what my employer does I have responsibilities. Someone with kids has MORE responsibilities and even less reason to sit on his butt instead of hitting the bricks to find a new job.

Sitting around and acting like a victim is not always an option.

It also makes it A LOT harder to pack up and move else where when you have a house to sell and kids who have friends...

When it is just you (or just 2 adults), you can go everywhere you please. With kids, not so much.

You made the statement (I think it was you, but correct me if I am wrong), that women should stay home and home school their kids, that would "save the generation" (that is my conclusion), while it takes more than 1 full time income to even support a family.

Tell me how?

[Gunnair]

Thanos Thanos:

Maybe they should have captioned the pictures a la the ones at I Can Haz Cheezeburger in order to make it easier for some folks to understand.

Ah.....so you really have nothing here to back up both your lynching desires and your justice system disgust. Just some emotion of the moment posts which will go away in a few days.

I guess that's easy.

[Tricks]

I feel like all this talk of home schooling isn't completely understood. Has anyone actually been home schooled or done it themselves? Cause I was home schooled while teachers fucked around in public school. It can be done with both parents working. Easier if one is only part time, but still doable if both parents are on a 40 hour work week. High school would be more tricky, but up till grade 8, no problem.

[BartSimpson]

Brenda Brenda:

It also makes it A LOT harder to pack up and move else where when you have a house to sell and kids who have friends...

When it is just you (or just 2 adults), you can go everywhere you please. With kids, not so much.

You made the statement (I think it was you, but correct me if I am wrong), that women should stay home and home school their kids, that would "save the generation" (that is my conclusion), while it takes more than 1 full time income to even support a family.

Tell me how?

Brenda, what you lack is perspective.

Let me ask, do you think the man in the following article would be dismayed by the loss of a mere job?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Benavidez

No, he would not.

Because he overcame what he did, what kind of person is it that surrenders to the loss of a job?

As to having a woman stay home and take care of the kids that's a choice that people can make.

And that's a choice that can be accomplished on less money if the family is sensible enough to not use credit to buy all sorts of crap they don't need.

[Brenda]

$1:

As to having a woman stay home and take care of the kids that's a choice that people can make.

And that's a choice that can be accomplished on less money if the family is sensible enough to not use credit to buy all sorts of crap they don't need.

You assume that EVERYONE has a credit card and ONLY to buy crap they don't need.

A lot of people use a credit card to MAKE ENDS MEET.

I think YOU lack perspective, actually. Not everyone has a University degree or a job that requires one. Or a job that can pay off the student loan that comes with it. Some people actually work in grocery stores and have families. Some people actually do jobs that don't pay that much. And I doubt you can feed a family of 4 in say, Vancouver, for $20/hr.

There are more 'normal' people than 'hero's that make wiki', Bart. Everyone fights their own battle. The fact that you only have respect for military battles says more about you than about what everyone else overcomes. It is not up to you to judge.

[xerxes]

Thanos Thanos:

Brenda Brenda:

Teach your sons.

Too much to ever expect from some people apparently, judging from some of the responses here. And that's one hell of a tragedy right there.

It can be taught though.

$1:

'Don't Be That Guy' ad campaign cuts Vancouver sex assaults by 10 per cent in 2011
ROBERT MATAS
VANCOUVER — The Globe and Mail

The message on the poster is blunt. A young woman in red tights and a skimpy black dress is flaked out on the edge of a couch, her head turned away. A few wine bottles are on the floor.

“Just because she isn’t saying no doesn’t mean she is saying yes,” the poster says. “Sex without consent = sexual assault. Don’t Be That Guy.”

The poster is one of three that went up at bars and around the city last summer as part of a campaign to chip away at the increasing rate of sexual assaults in recent years in Vancouver.

Six months later, Deputy Chief Doug LePard says the Don’t Be That Guy campaign has contributed to a turnaround in statistics on sexual offences in Vancouver.

The rate dropped in 2011 by about 10 per cent, the first time in several years it had gone down.

Sexual assaults had defied recent trends in crime. While the overall rate dropped every year over the past decade, the rate of sexual offences went up. Strathcona had the highest number of sexual assaults in Vancouver from 2008 to 2010. The police linked the statistics to the large number of prostitutes in the area.

But Strathcona was not alone. Sexual assaults in downtown Vancouver, Coal Harbour and the West End increased by 22 per cent from 2008 to 2009 and went up another 29 per cent from 2009 to 2010. On the west side of Vancouver, sexual assaults dropped in 2009 but increased the next year to nearly the 2008 level.

Several assaults involved intoxicated young women who were vulnerable and lured by a predator, Deputy Chief LePard told the Vancouver Police Board earlier this week. The Don’t Be That Guy program, which was developed in Edmonton and introduced recently in several Canadian cities, shifts attention from the victim to the offender.

The emphasis of public education is not limited to how women can make themselves less vulnerable, he said. The campaign aims to reach men with the message that they should not be “that guy,” he said.

The reversal in the trend related to sexual assaults reflected the impact of the new education program, better training for police officers and more effective investigation and enforcement, he said.

All members of the police department were trained on investigative techniques for sexual assault cases. The seriousness of the crime was reinforced. Most minor sexual offences, such as sexual exposing, often lead to more serious crimes, such as sexual assaults, Deputy Chief Lepard said.

[Brenda]

[BeaverFever]

Hacker group Anonymous weighs in:

First the video:



Then the letter:

$1:

Operation Justice for Rehtaeh:

4/11 Statement:

Since yesterday morning several teams of investigators have been working to dissect the events surrounding the rape, harassment and suicide of Rehtaeh Parsons.

What we have learned is certainly appalling, but it wasn't the act of rape that shocked us. It was the behavior of the adults in Rehtaeh's life that we found most disturbing. Let's set aside for a moment the compassion they should have shown as human beings and just focus on the responsibilities they had as professionals. We're talking about the school teachers, administrators, the police and prosecutors, those who should have been role models in the late Rehtaeh's life.

To begin, Ross Landry's reversal of his decision not investigate this case after a media blitz is clearly an indication that his sudden interest is purely an act of public relations damage-control. You should be really ashamed of yourself. In contrast to your statements your actions are not genuine and your patronizing attention is unappreciated. Ross, you have zero class. We encourage you to get it together.

Now, it took us only a few hours to identify the boys that assaulted Rehtaeh. This wasn't some high-tech operation that involved extracting private messages from someone's Facebook account. Dozens of e-mails were sent to us by kids and adults alike, most of whom had personal relationships with the rapists. Many recalled confessions made by these boys blatantly in public where they detailed the rape of an inebriated 15-year-old girl. Recent statements by police and prosecutors that there simply wasn't enough evidence to make a single arrest should be viewed solely as an admission of incompetence on their part. This wasn't “he said, she said.” He said he did it and he said it to everyone while showing them a photo of him doing it. Every officer that signed off on this “no evidence” conclusion should be guarding the entrance to a petting zoo for the remainder of their careers. We're afraid to ask if anyone even bothered to check the EXIF data on the rape/child pornography being openly shared by hundreds of students throughout your community.

The way the story is told, time and time again, these sad little boys had no fear whatsoever about admitting publicly their crimes and even spreading photographic evidence of it. Why were they unafraid? They believed no one was ever going to do anything to stop them and they were right. For this we point our fingers at the Cole Harbour school system. It is truly disturbing that this level of bullying could happen in one of your schools without you noticing. Worse, child porn was apparently viral in your halls and you had no clue. That was the excuse your staff repeated on the news yesterday wasn't it, that you didn't know. Well, it's your job to know. If the administration of that school had any honor they would all resign for failing to meet the terms of their employment.

All of you have created a mess and instead of taking responsibility and cleaning it up, the first thing you did yesterday morning was get on television and defend your jobs. You have taught the young men in your community a terrible lesson: rape is easy.

And just to clear things up once and for all for the young men in Nova Scotia who are unlikely to hear this from any of their role models: vomiting drunk girls are not capable of giving you consent to have sex with them. That kind of sex is called rape. It isn't really sex at all. If that's the only way you can laid, you are pathetic and should stick to quietly sobbing while fondling yourselves in the dark until hopefully the day comes when some woman you probably don't deserve pities you enough to teach you how to act like a real man.

At this time we can honestly say we're confident we know the identities of the people involved in Rehtaeh's rape. It would probably take us a lot longer to come up with a list of the people responsible for her death. We hope you all find some way to sleep at night.

See you Sunday.

- Anonymous.

[DrCaleb]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

$1:

And just to clear things up once and for all for the young men in Nova Scotia who are unlikely to hear this from any of their role models: vomiting drunk girls are not capable of giving you consent to have sex with them. That kind of sex is called rape. It isn't really sex at all. If that's the only way you can laid, you are pathetic and should stick to quietly sobbing while fondling yourselves in the dark until hopefully the day comes when some woman you probably don't deserve pities you enough to teach you how to act like a real man.

Epic!

[BartSimpson]

Meanwhile in California the same thing happened and the sheriff's department had no qualms about putting the rapists in jail where they belong:

http://www.businessinsider.com/3-teens- ... ide-2013-4

Note: The story is link-only as AP aggresively protects their material and they will sue anyone reposting their material on the net.

[andyt]

$1:

The lieutenant said the arrests were the result of information gathered by his agency's Saratoga High School resource officers

Whereas the information gathered by the RCMP in Rehtaeh's case led the attorney general's office to coclude there was not likelihood of a conviction. You see the difference, Bunky? Or do you really want trial by media?

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

$1:

The lieutenant said the arrests were the result of information gathered by his agency's Saratoga High School resource officers

Whereas the information gathered by the RCMP in Rehtaeh's case led the attorney general's office to coclude there was not likelihood of a conviction. You see the difference, Bunky? Or do you really want trial by media?

In the Rehtaeh case they're not even going to give a trial by jury a spin. They're just letting the local rapists run free because they're popular kids with well-connected parents.

I hope Anonymous performs justce on them because the RCMP certainly won't.

[andyt]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

In the Rehtaeh case they're not even going to give a trial by jury a spin. They're just letting the local rapists run free because they're popular kids with well-connected parents.

I hope Anonymous performs justce on them because the RCMP certainly won't.

Your hopes are dashed:

'Anonymous' won't release names of Rehtaeh Parsons suspects

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A group purported to be hacktivists Anonymous says that at the request of the family of Nova Scotia teenager Rehtaeh Parsons, it will withhold the names of the individuals alleged to have raped the teenager before her death, but adds others might not go along with that decision...

“it has come to our attention that several names have already been posted online to various websites, even tossed around on Twitter. Be aware that 99 per cent of you have named someone that is innocent,” they wrote.
“We aren't playing guilty until proven innocent. We apologize to those of you who want this type of justice, but bashing someone's reputation online is just not good enough.”