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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:03 pm
 


Meanwhile in the homeland of King Arthur the new owners stake their claim. Cause, you know...Gaza.



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:53 pm
 


This is almost funny.

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Several thousand left-wing activists gathered in Tel Aviv’s Rabin Square on Saturday evening, calling for an end to bloodshed in the Gaza Strip.

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The demonstrations were cut short when Hamas resumed rocket-fire from Gaza.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/protesters ... -tel-aviv/


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:56 pm
 


raydan raydan:
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Brazzers?

You're almost the voice of reason in this thread... :wink:


Yeah, that scares the shit out of me too. 8O Gazzers anyone? 8)

I really don't care what happens in Israel anyway. I just hope that the Obamunist doesn't use his Hitlerian NSA data mining and his satanic HAARP machinery to steal any of my hack codes to Naughty America or Reality Kings. I can live without a lot of things but Ass Worship isn't one of them. [drool] :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:32 am
 


Interesting read


The secret report that helps Israelis to hide facts

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Israeli spokesmen have their work cut out explaining how they have killed more than 1,000 Palestinians in Gaza, most of them civilians, compared with just three civilians killed in Israel by Hamas rocket and mortar fire. But on television and radio and in newspapers, Israeli government spokesmen such as Mark Regev appear slicker and less aggressive than their predecessors, who were often visibly indifferent to how many Palestinians were killed.

There is a reason for this enhancement of the PR skills of Israeli spokesmen. Going by what they say, the playbook they are using is a professional, well-researched and confidential study on how to influence the media and public opinion in America and Europe. Written by the expert Republican pollster and political strategist Dr Frank Luntz, the study was commissioned five years ago by a group called The Israel Project, with offices in the US and Israel, for use by those "who are on the front lines of fighting the media war for Israel".

Every one of the 112 pages in the booklet is marked "not for distribution or publication" and it is easy to see why. The Luntz report, officially entitled "The Israel project's 2009 Global Language Dictionary......

The booklet is full of meaty advice about how they should shape their answers for different audiences. For example, the study says that "Americans agree that Israel 'has a right to defensible borders'. But it does you no good to define exactly what those borders should be. Avoid talking about borders in terms of pre- or post-1967, because it only serves to remind Americans of Israel's military history. Particularly on the left this does you harm. For instance, support for Israel's right to defensible borders drops from a heady 89 per cent to under 60 per cent when you talk about it in terms of 1967."

How about the right of return for Palestinian refugees who were expelled or fled in 1948 and in the following years, and who are not allowed to go back to their homes? Here Dr Luntz has subtle advice for spokesmen, saying that "the right of return is a tough issue for Israelis to communicate effectively because much of Israeli language sounds like the 'separate but equal' words of the 1950s segregationists and the 1980s advocates of Apartheid. The fact is, Americans don't like, don't believe and don't accept the concept of 'separate but equal'."

So how should spokesmen deal with what the booklet admits is a tough question? They should call it a "demand", on the grounds that Americans don't like people who make demands. "Then say 'Palestinians aren't content with their own state. Now they're demanding territory inside Israel'." Other suggestions for an effective Israeli response include saying that the right of return might become part of a final settlement "at some point in the future"....

In a sentence in bold type, underlined and with capitalisation, Dr Luntz says that Israeli spokesmen or political leaders must never, ever justify "the deliberate slaughter of innocent women and children" and they must aggressively challenge those who accuse Israel of such a crime. Israeli spokesmen struggled to be true to this prescription when 16 Palestinians were killed in a UN shelter in Gaza last Thursday.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is quoted with approval for saying that it is "time for someone to ask Hamas: what exactly are YOU doing to bring prosperity to your people". The hypocrisy of this beggars belief: it is the seven-year-old Israeli economic siege that has reduced the Gaza to poverty and misery.

On every occasion, the presentation of events by Israeli spokesmen is geared to giving Americans and Europeans the impression that Israel wants peace with the Palestinians and is prepared to compromise to achieve this, when all the evidence is that it does not.


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 30765.html

Unfortunately for Israel this time, regardless of all the tricks they have used, from reports like this to getting people on their payroll to post on social media they are nor able to control the narrative and present their side as the only official version of events. But it is impossible to cover their atrocities. They are losing the PR war except in that other disctrict of Israel, the US.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:36 am
 


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They are losing the PR war except in that other disctrict of Israel, the US.


Ah, yes. Our one-time moslem President is a tool of the Jews. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:42 pm
 


Hamas buying arms from North Korea seems like poor PR

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/27 ... le-stocks/


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:45 pm
 


DanSC DanSC:
Hamas buying arms from North Korea seems like poor PR

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/27 ... le-stocks/


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This undated picture released from North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on July 7, 2014 shows North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un (C) being celebrated by soldiers as he inspects the defence detachment on Ung Islet, defending an outpost in the East Sea of Korea.


"being celebrated"? Really, 'cause a couple of those guys look terrified. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:56 pm
 


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desertdude desertdude:
They are losing the PR war except in that other disctrict of Israel, the US.


Ah, yes. Our one-time moslem President is a tool of the Jews. :lol:


:wink:

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/ckzvq ... ationalist


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DanSC DanSC:
Hamas buying arms from North Korea seems like poor PR

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/27 ... le-stocks/



Worse is killing 10 children celebrating Eid marking the end of ramadan and bombing a hospital

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A strike at a children’s park in Al-Shati camp in Gaza killed 10 children celebrating the first day of the Muslim Eid Al-Fitr holiday on Monday.

The strike was shortly followed by another one hitting the external clinics of Al-Shifa hospital in western Gaza.


http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2014/07/2 ... gaza-park/


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:42 pm
 


I don't know... North Korea has killed far more than 10 kids. Israel wishes it could run Gaza like a North Korean prison camp.

If Hamas and North Korea get close, we're entering "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" territory.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:13 pm
 


Maybe fs Hamas wasn't hiding among civilians firing rockets into Israel, builings tunnels in civilians areas hiding like a bunch of Fucking Cowards it wouldn't have gone this far.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:39 pm
 


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Title: Indefensible Hamas (click to view)
Date: July 28, 2014

There are plenty of perfectly good criticisms to be leveled against the State of Israel. Personally, I’m quite troubled by the so-called “demographic time bomb” theory, which posits that Israel’s increasing Arab and Palestinian birthrates ultimately doom the Jewish nation to impose some ugly form of minority-rule. And of course we’re all well-versed in the gross spectacle of settler expansion into the West Bank, a brazen effort at colonial growth at exactly the moment the Palestinian territories are supposed to be inching towards independence.


Yet the mere existence of Israeli sin should not blind anyone to the greater evils of its enemies.

This is the sort of blunt moral judgment that’s been traditionally uncouth among fashionable western progressives, who, often feel the need to affect great open-minded exasperation at the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, bemoaning that “fault exists on both sides.” Such is the default position of those ideologically inclined to regard assertive side-taking as a symptom of an unsophisticated mind, with “blind” support of Israel in particular a worrying proxy for something worse — Millennialist Christianity, perhaps.

Yet in the wake of the current war between the Israeli government and the Islamic Resistance Movement — better known as Hamas — that’s running the Gaza Strip, even the traditional progressive skepticism seems to be breaking down. As Israel’s Palestinian resisters become more nihilistic and radical at precisely the time the Israelis are getting more sensitive and cautious, the lopsided moral imbalance is becoming harder to ignore.

The traditional Israel-bashers are certainly looking more pathetic than usual. The buffoonish United Nations Human Rights Council drew up a monstrously biased report on the Gaza war the other day, which predictably sailed to approval on the votes of the various third world dictatorships who comprise the body’s largest bloc. Yet it was telling no nation resembling a first world democracy could be persuaded to support it. Of the 17 abstentions, almost all noted with concern that the Council’s chronology of the conflict was a bit one-sided, to put it lightly. The brusque four-page report does not include the word “Hamas” once, and instead speaks only of Israeli aggressors inflicting “widespread, systematic and gross violations of international human rights and fundamental freedoms” against the hapless peoples of “Occupied Palestine.”

Nowhere was it mentioned that the Gaza Strip actually ceased to be occupied back in 2005, as the late Ariel Sharon painfully extracted every remaining Jewish settler and soldier from the territory.

Nowhere was it mentioned that Hamas explicitly pledges to “obliterate” the state of Israel in their founding charter — “by Jihad,” in fact.

Nowhere was it mentioned that Hamas leaders have long spoken of “Jews” in the most generic as their enemy, and that their preferred military tactic in the current conflict — lobbing over 2,500 missiles into major population centres — have made urban Israelis the war’s true civilian targets.

Nowhere was it mentioned that Hamas has transported weapons in ambulances, housed missiles in schools, mosques, and hospitals, and disguised their fighters in Israeli uniforms — all clear violations of the codified laws of war.

Nowhere was it mentioned that the Israelis have so far discovered over 30 multi-million dollar “terror tunnels” spiraling out of Gaza (built in part with alleged child labor) that serve no purpose other than to turn western Palestine into a launchpad for guerrilla aggression against its neighbor.

Nowhere was it mentioned that just a few days prior, Hamas refused a comprehensive ceasefire backed by basically everyone who matters: the Egyptian government, the Arab League, the United Nations, the EU — even old man Obama, if anyone still cares about him.

Nor, for that matter, did the report mention the exceedingly cautious conduct of the Israeli forces in what they’re calling “Operation Protective Edge,” a reputation-conscious nervousness so thoroughly unprecedented in modern warfare it’s almost certainly harmed national security.

While Israeli civilians have been largely protected from Hamas rockets by the country’s awesome Iron Dome missile defense system, Palestinian civilians are protected by an Israeli shield of their own: an elaborate system of advanced warnings to residents of Gazan neighborhoods targeted for bombing. The system includes everything from text messages, personalized phone calls, noisemaking “dummy bombs” (so-called “roof knocking”), and even airdropped maps steering civilians to refugee centres. Such has been the IDF’s painstaking effort to mimimize causing casualties while attacking one of the most densely-packed places on earth, yet Hamas has ensured the Palestinian death toll has remained high anyway, glibly encouraging Gazans to dismiss Israeli warnings as “psychological warfare.”

Prime Minister Netanyahu took some flak for noticing that last bit, concluding on American television that Hamas seems to enjoy the existence of “telegenically dead Palestinians.” Yet it’s a indictment that’s difficult to avoid given how effective the conflict’s 570 Gazan victims have proven in forming a narrative of “disproportionate death” — the only argument Hamas can peddle for foreign sympathy. In any case, surely a group cynical enough to engage in talks with North Korea to replenish their depleted missile supply would hardly balk at the indignity of ratcheting up its own body count for propaganda purposes.

A dispassionate analysis of facts like these — facts which are not the result of clever cherry-picking on my end — but simple observation on the broad character of the Gaza conflict to date, cannot help but lead to a simple conclusion: Israel is better than Hamas.

To conclude this isn’t to posit that Israel, and the current Israeli government in particular, is without failing in other contexts, nor to even make a value judgment about the broader merits of Zionism, if you’re still a skeptic. It’s simply to note that what we have right now is a secular, liberal democracy fighting the aggressions of a lunatic death cult actively loathed by the long-suffering captives it purports to rule. With tendentious conduct resulting.

Whether that’s an accurate summary of the Palestinian-Israel conflict in general, it’s certainly true of this one.

It demands an appropriate reception.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:49 pm
 


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Worse is killing 10 children celebrating Eid marking the end of ramadan and bombing a hospital


If the 10 children were marking the end of ramadan and bombing a hospital then they were in dire need of parental guidance. But what am I saying? In Gaza it was probably their parents who put them up to it!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:53 pm
 


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DanSC DanSC:
Hamas buying arms from North Korea seems like poor PR

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/27 ... le-stocks/


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"being celebrated"? Really, 'cause a couple of those guys look terrified. :lol:


Why do I think that the two guys in front aren't "with us" anymore. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:53 pm
 


Seems to me the UN is itself become an enemy of the State of Israel.

(Memo to self: When in New York City - avoid United Nations Plaza)


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