[bootlegga]

DerbyX DerbyX:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Governments should not be regulating the content of the news. Period.

The people can do that quite nicely all on ther own.

Like yours does with foul language & nudity?

I watched Showgirls on WTBS superstation last week. It was 10 minutes long and featured Elizabeth Berkely driving into Las Vegas and then driving out of Las Vegas with a commercial for checkers in between.

In fairnes, he said news, not TV, but I agree that the FCC would crack down on any news anchors swearing in primetime (or showing clips with nudity).

[Proculation]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

No Lies as "News". Thanks.

Oh, you prefer government regulated news that's got nothing but certified truth in it?

Here you go:

http://english.pravda.ru/

News should be true.

Opinion is another thing.


That's ironic you are citing Pravda to make your point.

[martin14]

Proculation Proculation:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

No Lies as "News". Thanks.

Oh, you prefer government regulated news that's got nothing but certified truth in it?

Here you go:

http://english.pravda.ru/

News should be true.

Opinion is another thing.


That's ironic you are citing Pravda to make your point.

Not at all.


Pravda in English is nothing more than a mouthpiece for Putin,

all pre-approved by the Kremlin.

The only thing true in those reports is the weather..

Putin is a real strong man.

[2Cdo]

Curtman Curtman:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

They don't want a news show with percieved right of centre bias, that hasn't even aired yet!

Uhh, no. This is about broadcasting "news" that is known to be false. It's interesting that you think to be biased to right-of-centre requires this change.

It's interesting that this has only become an issue when a new "right of centre" news channel is coming. Nobody gave a rat fuck about the half-truths and barely concealed bias that passes for news on the good old CBC!

Like I said earlier, if this new station airs falsehoods as news I will be the first to call for their immediate suspension by the CRTC. Calling for a ban on something before it has even aired one second reeks of censorship. Pretending this petition is anything but is dishonest.

[Curtman]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Like I said earlier, if this new station airs falsehoods as news I will be the first to call for their immediate suspension by the CRTC. Calling for a ban on something before it has even aired one second reeks of censorship. Pretending this petition is anything but is dishonest.

You won't be able to unless you feel your life is threatened by it! That's the point.

$1:

The law currently says a broadcast licensee “shall not broadcast any false or misleading news.”

The change would state that no radio or television network will broadcast any news “the licensee knows is false or misleading and that endangers or is likely to endanger the lives, health or safety of the public.”

This decision is not just about HarperTV.. Why would you support this change for any broadcaster?

[sandorski]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

No Lies as "News". Thanks.

Oh, you prefer government regulated news that's got nothing but certified truth in it?

Here you go:

http://english.pravda.ru/

So your Proof is Lies as News? Like I said, no thanks. This isn't about Government censors pre-approving what is Published/Broadcast, it's about the ability to penalize Reports that are clearly Lies after the fact.

You may want an Misinformed Public, but you can keep that shit in the US.

[Proculation]

sandorski sandorski:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

No Lies as "News". Thanks.

Oh, you prefer government regulated news that's got nothing but certified truth in it?

Here you go:

http://english.pravda.ru/

So your Proof is Lies as News? Like I said, no thanks. This isn't about Government censors pre-approving what is Published/Broadcast, it's about the ability to penalize Reports that are clearly Lies after the fact.

You may want an Misinformed Public, but you can keep that shit in the US.

I don't know about english canadian news but here in Quebec, misinforming the public is so common that it is no longer criticized. It's normality.

[Curtman]

sandorski sandorski:

You may want an Misinformed Public, but you can keep that shit in the US.

The news can be 100% fiction, as long as the volume of the advertising is normalized. Thanks for looking out for us CRTC.

CRTC seeks comments on loudness of TV ads

$1:

OTTAWA-GATINEAU, February 17, 2011 —The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) today launched a public consultation on the issue of loud television commercials. The CRTC is inviting comments on the possible technical and regulatory measures that would ensure commercials are not perceived to be louder than the programs they accompany.

[EyeBrock]

sandorski sandorski:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

No Lies as "News". Thanks.

Oh, you prefer government regulated news that's got nothing but certified truth in it?

Here you go:

http://english.pravda.ru/

So your Proof is Lies as News? Like I said, no thanks. This isn't about Government censors pre-approving what is Published/Broadcast, it's about the ability to penalize Reports that are clearly Lies after the fact.

You may want an Misinformed Public, but you can keep that shit in the US.

Yea Sand, the CBC and CTV are just the epitome of unbiased information.

[sandorski]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

sandorski sandorski:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Oh, you prefer government regulated news that's got nothing but certified truth in it?

Here you go:

http://english.pravda.ru/

So your Proof is Lies as News? Like I said, no thanks. This isn't about Government censors pre-approving what is Published/Broadcast, it's about the ability to penalize Reports that are clearly Lies after the fact.

You may want an Misinformed Public, but you can keep that shit in the US.

Yea Sand, the CBC and CTV are just the epitome of unbiased information.

Bias and Lies are 2 different things. There's nothing within current CRTC rules to prevent a Conservative dominated Editorialized News service.

[Newsbot]

Title: CRTC dumps proposal to ease rules on false news
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: Guy_Fawkes
Date: 2011-02-26 02:17:35
Canadian

[Curtman]

$1:

"All I can say is, 'Thank you, committee,"' CRTC chairman Konrad von Finckenstein told the specialty publication The Wire Report last week.

"I will withdraw this proposal tomorrow. This is the end of this issue."
...
However, Von Finckenstein said the CRTC "never wanted to touch this thing" and had, in fact, dragged its feet for 10 years until "we ran out of stalling devices." He said the CRTC finally proposed the change this year "because we were ordered to do it."
...
Liberal MP Andrew Kania, co-chairman of the joint parliamentary committee on scrutiny of regulations, challenged von Finckenstein's interpretation of what happened.

He said the committee never ordered the CRTC to do anything. It only asked, 10 years ago, that the CRTC consider whether the blanket ban on false news might violate freedom of speech guarantees in the Charter of Rights. The request was prompted by a Supreme Court ruling in the case of Holocaust-denier Ernst Zundel.

Over the past two years, the committee reminded the CRTC that it still hadn't responded on the matter but did not push for any particular regulatory change, Kania said.
...
"If (someone) walks outside right now and says, 'The Holocaust didn't happen,' you're exercising, in theory, your freedom of speech under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

"But, if a licencee, a broadcaster who needs permission and is governed (by regulations) ... publishes the Holocaust doesn't exist, that's a different standard. It's not the same thing."

I highly doubt this is really the "the end of this issue". In 2012 when Harper appoints his rubber stamper to replace him, we'll be discussing this again.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Between this and the usage based billing, I have a sneaking suspicion that one of these ideas was a smoke screen so the other could get railroaded through.

[DrCaleb]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Between this and the usage based billing, I have a sneaking suspicion that one of these ideas was a smoke screen so the other could get railroaded through.

I think they were all test balloons to see what they could slip by the sheep.

[sandorski]

Woot! Hopefully this BS stays Dead.