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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

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[Like I said, I have no debt (except school loans). I live in a house in Montreal and I own a car. All alone.

You still have other arguments ?

Yer too close to the TV screen. Look, every 4 years rent goes up by 10% give or take depending on where you live. Do you or anyone else you know get a 10% raise over 4 years, EVERY 4 years? If I still lived in the same apartment as I did in 1980, my rent would have increased by 87% by now. Nobody outside of the upper economic classes has seen an 87% jump in their wages/salaries over 30 years.

In 1980 a gallon of gas cost around 25 cents and the minimum wage in Ontario was about $3/hr. In 2010 a gallon of gas costs about $4 (depending on where you live) and the minimum wage in Ontario is around $10/hr.
Quite simply put, my 1980 dollar had more purchasing power than my 2010 dollar.
To put it another way, I could buy 12 gallons of gas on 1 hr of minimum wage in 1980. Today, I can only buy 2.5 gallons of gas on 1 hr of minimum wage, even though minimum wage is OVER 3 times as much as it was in 1980.
And I'll tell you something else, $200 at a grocery store doesn't go ANYWHERE near as far as it did in 1980.

You are taking specific contexts and situations to make your point. That's not how we calculate a CPI.

If I follow you logic, I can say that Internet/Computers/etc. in general are much more powerful and much less expensive. They are things that are indispensable in 2010, for students, work, etc. We have a lot more choices of fruits, vegetables, other grocery things i general and at a less price. You can buy a big T bone for 5-7$. Etc.

Add to that the technologies and items coming from them. etc etc.

You see, you can take the position you want and give yourself some examples. Fortunately, we do not calculate a CPI like that.

[hurley_108]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

But I'm politically opposed to liberal capitalist democracies. Plus there is no one of my politics running in my area at all, I disagree with every candidate.

Aww, muffin! You want a cookie? Would that make you feel better? JOIN THE CLUB! You think I like my suite of choices? I've got a career Conservative who'll win every time, and then whichever poor flunky the other parties pick to pit against him. And that's at the Candidate level. At the party level things are hardly better. We've got the Conservatives who want to criminalize fair use (at least in the colloquial sense if not the legal sense) of media but put a gun in every hand. The Liberals who don't really know what they want to do. The NDP who want so desperately to get a taste of power they got us inot that horrid debacle of a coalition bid that has soured the electorate to the very idea even though it's a perfectly legitimate form of government. And the Greens who just play the perennial spoiler.

But you know what? I vote anyways.

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'Being Canadian' isn't enough for me anymore man.

What real reason is there if nothing changes?

Is "use it or lose it" enough of a reason? Move to China.

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It's hardly sacred.

It's one day of freedom, for Serfs to choose from a list of Kings.

Not to be heard.

Oooh, deep. Write THAT on your ballot. Ever heard of spoiling your ballot? I did that once, in our farce of a senate election. I just left it blank - as a protest of what I thought was a ridiculous exercise. I didn't like any of the candidates (the Liberals and NDP even went to far as to boycott the election), but I didn't feel like tacitly legitimizing the process by simply choosing not to take part.

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@Hurley_108:

A little bit out context but it would be great if the blank votes were counted, like in a lot of countries.

[hurley_108]

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@Hurley_108:

A little bit out context but it would be great if the blank votes were counted, like in a lot of countries.

Agreed.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Yep, I agree with your sentiment Hurley. I used to think a bit like Mr.C until I started writing Don Cherry's name on the ballot. Unless of course there really was someone I was willing to vote for, which wasn't very often.

[Public_Domain]

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You are not "just some fucking dude". You are what you are. A person with rights and freedom living in a democracy.

You don't seem to understand how lucky you are to be born here.

I understand the "Let's do a revolution !" phase you are in. We all passed through it. Idealize. Trying to find ways to change the world. That's a normal process. Just try to drive that energy on constructive things !

[herbie]

Don't be a dork MrC there's always some Marxist-Leninist who gets 4 votes on the tally. Get your ass out and make it five.
On the other hand, don't forget you're getting railed at by people convinced an education is something you should have to pay for.