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andyt
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:22 am
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You're lumping all Jews together here, PA. Hassiim certainly have a strict dress code, and most orthodox Jews have to keep their heads covered at all times by either a yarmulke or a hat.
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Brenda
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:34 am
Orthodox Jews also always wear hats and long beards.
Now, if that is your faith, your religion, and you know Disney does not want that for their employees, why apply?
If I don't want to wear a uniform, or only want to work in jeans, there are certain jobs I just cannot do, and certain places I cannot work. It's not that hard. Why sue??
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:41 am
Brenda Brenda: Orthodox Jews also always wear hats and long beards.
Now, if that is your faith, your religion, and you know Disney does not want that for their employees, why apply?
If I don't want to wear a uniform, or only want to work in jeans, there are certain jobs I just cannot do, and certain places I cannot work. It's not that hard. Why sue?? Hey, if it extends our freedoms such that people can wear what they want in workplaces that didn't previously allow for it - thereby killing the pointless taboo - then, yea, I'm all for it.
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:45 am
mentalfloss mentalfloss: Hey, if it extends our freedoms such that people can wear what they want in workplaces that didn't previously allow for it - thereby killing the pointless taboo - then, yea, I'm all for it. Sure, let's start by doing away with uniforms for the police. That sounds like a great idea, right?
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Brenda
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:46 am
mentalfloss mentalfloss: Brenda Brenda: Orthodox Jews also always wear hats and long beards.
Now, if that is your faith, your religion, and you know Disney does not want that for their employees, why apply?
If I don't want to wear a uniform, or only want to work in jeans, there are certain jobs I just cannot do, and certain places I cannot work. It's not that hard. Why sue?? Hey, if it extends our freedoms such that people can wear what they want in workplaces that didn't previously allow for it - thereby killing the pointless taboo - then, yea, I'm all for it. I'm not. Because that means that I, as an employer, can not tell my employees that I do not want to see them in baggy jeans or with visible tattoos, but still have my clients pay $1500/hr for my legal services. Or I cannot tell my employees to not wear jeans, but black and white in my restaurant.
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:52 am
mentalfloss mentalfloss: Brenda Brenda: Orthodox Jews also always wear hats and long beards.
Now, if that is your faith, your religion, and you know Disney does not want that for their employees, why apply?
If I don't want to wear a uniform, or only want to work in jeans, there are certain jobs I just cannot do, and certain places I cannot work. It's not that hard. Why sue?? Hey, if it extends our freedoms such that people can wear what they want in workplaces that didn't previously allow for it - thereby killing the pointless taboo - then, yea, I'm all for it. Pointless taboo? Yea, if you are a scruffy scrote with no self respect it is pointless. The rest of us like to see well dressed, clean people. In defensive tactics, it's called an 'impact factor'. How you look influences how people think about you. It always has and always will. Look like shite and you will get treated accordingly. Why do you think the Bhurka etc has caused such an uproar in the west? Because how people look and dress has a huge cultural impact on us.
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:51 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: mentalfloss mentalfloss: Hey, if it extends our freedoms such that people can wear what they want in workplaces that didn't previously allow for it - thereby killing the pointless taboo - then, yea, I'm all for it. Sure, let's start by doing away with uniforms for the police. That sounds like a great idea, right? Well, it depends on the profession. The police uniform is actually a pivotal part of their line of work, so no, you couldn't change that. Certain bureaucratic call centers.. not so much. EyeBrock EyeBrock: Why do you think the Bhurka etc has caused such an uproar in the west? Because how people look and dress has a huge cultural impact on us. Of course - modern civies by nature live a very shallow lifestyle. Personally, I'd love to see lawyers be able attend court proceedings in shorts/t-shirts. It could make the proceedings a little more objective once you take away their.. 'power suits'
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Regina 
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:56 am
If I was her..........I'd quit. Then get a job at Walmart where she belongs.
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:58 am
Well, we may have a shallow life-style and culture, but it's the most successful one on the planet.
If there are newcomers who don't agree with the way we do business, why should WE have to change to accommodate them?
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Brenda
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:59 am
mentalfloss mentalfloss: BartSimpson BartSimpson: mentalfloss mentalfloss: Hey, if it extends our freedoms such that people can wear what they want in workplaces that didn't previously allow for it - thereby killing the pointless taboo - then, yea, I'm all for it. Sure, let's start by doing away with uniforms for the police. That sounds like a great idea, right? Well, it depends on the profession. The police uniform is actually a pivotal part of their line of work, so no, you couldn't change that. Certain bureaucratic call centers.. not so much. Disney is not a bureaucratic call centre. They are in their right, and have been for decades. Accept that the boss calls the shots. If you don't want that, start your own business and deal with the bs the employees come with.
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Brenda
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:01 pm
mentalfloss mentalfloss: Of course - modern civies by nature live a very shallow lifestyle. Personally, I'd love to see lawyers be able attend court proceedings in shorts/t-shirts. It could make the proceedings a little more objective once you take away their.. 'power suits'
And make them "unbelievable". Justice is unbiased. Having a biker judge doing a biker criminal case shows bias.
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:02 pm
Brenda Brenda: mentalfloss mentalfloss: Well, it depends on the profession. The police uniform is actually a pivotal part of their line of work, so no, you couldn't change that. Certain bureaucratic call centers.. not so much.
Disney is not a bureaucratic call centre. They are in their right, and have been for decades. Accept that the boss calls the shots. If you don't want that, start your own business and deal with the bs the employees come with. Or better yet, he can start a business and hire all the retards the rest of us with brains won't touch. And watch how long he lasts. 
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:03 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock: Well, we may have a shallow life-style and culture, but it's the most successful one on the planet.
If there are newcomers who don't agree with the way we do business, why should WE have to change to accommodate them? Because you're not just 'accommodating newcomers'. There is definitely the argument to making a business even more successful if it is accepting of new cultures. We're destined to become a bigger meltpot of cultures, so in addition to accommodating them, you're also getting their business. martin14 martin14: Or better yet, he can start a business and hire all the retards the rest of us with brains won't touch. And watch how long he lasts.  I'd hire the ones with brains enough to focus on the job first and their peachy-keen appearance, second. Of course, it would have to be an appropriate industry -- as I implied earlier if you used your brain to process the text your eyeballs glossed over earlier. Would a successful group of tech engineers be good enough for you? Back to this whole Disney affair though - of course they would have to stick to the uniform to some degree since it is actually tied to their business. But this woman head dress would not and should not interfere with that image in the slightest.
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Brenda
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:09 pm
mentalfloss mentalfloss: EyeBrock EyeBrock: Well, we may have a shallow life-style and culture, but it's the most successful one on the planet.
If there are newcomers who don't agree with the way we do business, why should WE have to change to accommodate them? Because you're not just 'accommodating newcomers'. There is definitely the argument to making a business even more successful if it is accepting of new cultures. We're destined to become a bigger meltpot of cultures, so in addition to accommodating them, you're also getting their business. I think you miss the point here. If she came to her interview with her hajib on, the employer knew what he would have been dealing with. In this case, she wants to wear it after 2 year hajib-less on the job. My thinks that is utter bullshit. Also, Disney doesn't want you to wear earrings either as an employee. Would you provoke those rules and put them on anyway? As a guest, you can not wear offending t-shirts. Are you going to go there with your t-shirt, get told to leave, and then file a court case because you feel discriminated? I'm sorry, but I think that's just obnoxious behaviour, and looking for shit where there isn't any.
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:12 pm
I'm all for new cultures and new business, but Muslims are incestuous in business and in keeping their culture 'pure'. They are not alone as Chinese in Canada, especially in Toronto and the GTA are the same.
Really mentalfloss, you talk a load of old bollocks mate.
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