Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Yes, I'm the Drama Queen. Excuse me for getting a litte upset considering I spent the last couple days argueing with morons who like you don't even bother reading any of the facts or even accept a unbiased view on the subject. I came across this topic and you are doing the exact same thing. As well, proof of which.
Israel did find real weapons. What do you think a knife is, a play toy? Amung that they found a unusual ammount of metal pipes that are all deadly weapons in themselves, if you do not think so. Come over to my house and I'll beat you with one. Maybe you'll change your mind after? Amung that they found firebombs, if you don't know what those are go look them up. However, being you diddn't know those were part of the collection I guess you diddn't bother to read it? Amung that, a commando had a bullet wound, possibly even more. I guess that magically just appeared right?
Oh and so sorry for miss-spelling the name Mr. Google, I was just reading the book about it and went off memory of the title. Though, I guess you have no comment on that operation yourself other than dumbfuck? The point of bringing that up was that Israel from it's excistance has been met by hostility and threats. Either from neighbour countries and it's armies or muslim terrorists who would want nothing more than to kill jews. That operation was the start of Israels attitude of telling the world to fuck off when it comes to Israel's security. The UN and International community did nothing for those Israeli citizens or even allowed Israel to rescue them. What's a bigger injustice? That death of some terrorists who took hostile action against Israel by taking there citizens captive and killing them or the death of innocent civilians and the fact nobody was willing to help them.
Everything Israel gets shit for is in the name of security and protection of it's civilians. Israel knows from history of it's own country that it cannot count on the UN or western countries to protect them in a widespread of dangers that would love nothing more than to whipe them out. The Gaza blockaid, a act of defense. The search of that aid ship, a act of defense. The shooting of those "activists". a act of defense. Nowhere has Israel done any wrong, however they are met with extreme violence, protest of people who are extremely missinformed, biased and even racist. Israel doesn't deserve this shit and frankly I am getting tired or these anti-Israel sheep blindly protesting them for things they did nothing wrong for in the name of there own defense.
That's like if all the Quebec sepretists took up arms and started terrorizing English provinces in order to be heard of the seperation subject. The CF was sent in to basicly push them back and protect there provinces and citizens but they were met with fire and killed the seperetists and the internalional communuty called Canada and the CF murdurers and barbarians. That would be fucked up and it is fucked up, however what puzzles me is why nobody sees how fucked that up that is when Israel does it. So yeah, excuse me for being a little irritated on the subject.
I thought you weren't going to respond to "anti-Israel protesters" like me any longer...
So what if Israel found some knives and slingshots? Last time I checked, possession of neither was a capital crime (except maybe in some dictatorships and Muslim countries perhaps). Like I said earlier, if Israel is scared of lead pipes and slingshots, it's time to get the fuck out of dodge, because the end is near.
Israel can say whatever they want now, but they wouldn't have risked the lives of their troops and boarded the ship if they hadn't expected to find real weapons (rifles, rocket launchers, etc). However, their intel either fucked up or the "anti-Israel protesters" tossed them over the side shortly after they left Turkey (most likely IMO) or well before Israeli forces approached, and it blew up in the Israeli's faces. Now, they've come off looking like the heavy handed thugs they always tell the West they're fighting for their very survival against.
Like I said before, as the aggressors in this case (had they not boarded the ship, no other violence would have occurred), the onus is on them to provide a legitimate reason for boarding a ship in international waters. Taking away power tools from a would-be Palestinian Bob Vila isn't enough. Neither are some knives or gas masks or a couple of bullet proof vests. Now, if those knives were bayonets that fit on AK-47s, they might actually get some support from people. But they weren't.
Does Israel have the right to survive? Of course, but not in any manner it sees fit. For example, Israel does NOT have the right to nuke Damascus or Tehran, because it feels threatened. Of course, that changes if one or the other was to try and use WMD on Israel. Israel has had its back up against a wall for decades, and I fully support their actions in 1948, 1973, and even 1967, 1981, 1982 (preemptive strikes against Egypt/Syria, Iraq and the PLO in Lebanon in case you're not sure). And the Entebbe raid was both fucking brilliant in its execution and right given that the lives of over 100 Israelis were at stake.
But the carte blanche you (and others) here give to the Israelis is the same kind of BS that leads to our government to support dictatorial assholes like Pinochet who then use death squads or have Israeli troops aid and abet events like the Sabra Massacre to happen. And it's all in the mentality of, "Oh well, they're killing our enemies, so it's alright".
If Israel wants to occupy the moral high ground, then it needs to be better morally than its enemies. I agree that that sucks, but that's the way it is. You can't claim the moral high ground and then allow a Christian militia to slaughter hundreds of your enemies or board a ship in international waters and kill/wound a dozen or more people.
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