[Brenda]

According to the Pope, there is a different threat that is WAY more dangerous than anything else in the world:

$1:

same sex marriage and abortion were among the "most insidious and dangerous challenges that today confront the common good."

Tell me, how can "we all get along" as long as assholes like this still lead a religion?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... erous.html

[sandorski]

angler57 angler57:

BluesBud BluesBud:

kenmore kenmore:

When are you going to get it... Muslims have an agenda and that is the conversion of the infidels and world dominance. Ever ask yourself why after 9/11 there are thousands of them here? why? and it is the erosion of the assholes in Christendom and the falling away of those assholes that will allow it..

Excuse me kenmore! It is you who does not "get it". Not all Muslims have the "World Domination Agenda". Most are peace loving people like you....hum....well maybe more so. It is just the extremist that get the headlines. The media has to sell the news and that's what sells. How many papers would sell if the headline above the fold read "Islamic group helps community" Then there is the right wing conservative media continuing to perpetuate the idea that THEY ALL WANT YOU TO CONVERT OR BE PUT TO THE SWORD!!!! Don't let conservative talk radio be your only source of news along with Fox News. Not to mention the right wingnut blogs.

BTW you should take another look at your own Signature Line. Watch out you are dangerously close to being in contradiction with yourself.

If all or part of what you say is true. And that could be so.
Why don't these PEACE Loving muslims stand up side by side and DENOUNCE the murders of innocents???? WHY????

They did.

[kenmore]

Brenda Brenda:

According to the Pope, there is a different threat that is WAY more dangerous than anything else in the world:

$1:

same sex marriage and abortion were among the "most insidious and dangerous challenges that today confront the common good."

Tell me, how can "we all get along" as long as assholes like this still lead a religion?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... erous.html

The Pope is pro-life, and therefore pro family. He is against those two things because the church sees it as detrimental to life and family.. the church holds the opinion that abortion is murder and same sex marriage invalid because to the church the purpose of marriage is procreation... He cannot say anything different..

[Brenda]

kenmore kenmore:

Brenda Brenda:

According to the Pope, there is a different threat that is WAY more dangerous than anything else in the world:

$1:

same sex marriage and abortion were among the "most insidious and dangerous challenges that today confront the common good."

Tell me, how can "we all get along" as long as assholes like this still lead a religion?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... erous.html

The Pope is pro-life, and therefore pro family. He is against those two things because the church sees it as detrimental to life and family.. the church holds the opinion that abortion is murder and same sex marriage invalid because to the church the purpose of marriage is procreation... He cannot say anything different..

Of course he can. There are priests who have been calling for reformation of the church for ages. We live in 2010, not in 1870.

2 gay people adopting a child makes for a family too. Or should we let all those kids rot in some institution, just because the Pope doesn't consider it a family?
Then again, if he wasn't again abortion so bad, those kids wouldnt be put up for adoption... But since he is against condoms too... Hmmm, hypocrite...

[BartSimpson]

Brenda Brenda:

Of course he can. There are priests who have been calling for reformation of the church for ages. We live in 2010, not in 1870.

I am not a Catholic but will say that if anyone doesn't like the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church then it is not their place to change the church, but it is their place to feel free to leave. In fairness, the RCC is moderate on the topic of abortion and on the topic of homosexuality when compared to even moderate Islamic states (Jordan, Egypt, etc.) where such things can still result in a death penalty.

Brenda Brenda:

2 gay people adopting a child makes for a family too. Or should we let all those kids rot in some institution, just because the Pope doesn't consider it a family?
Then again, if he wasn't again abortion so bad, those kids wouldnt be put up for adoption... But since he is against condoms too... Hmmm, hypocrite...

Again, if you disagree, don't be a Catholic. I was born and raised Catholic and I left because I don't agree with most of what they say or do but at the same time I'm not going to go ballistic on them because they are not forcing anyone to adhere to doctrine. Heretics and apostates (as defined by the RCC) are free to go and practice as they wish elsewhere.

And that's what they should do.

[Brenda]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Brenda Brenda:

Of course he can. There are priests who have been calling for reformation of the church for ages. We live in 2010, not in 1870.

I am not a Catholic but will say that if anyone doesn't like the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church then it is not their place to change the church, but it is their place to feel free to leave. In fairness, the RCC is moderate on the topic of abortion and on the topic of homosexuality when compared to even moderate Islamic states (Jordan, Egypt, etc.) where such things can still result in a death penalty.

Brenda Brenda:

2 gay people adopting a child makes for a family too. Or should we let all those kids rot in some institution, just because the Pope doesn't consider it a family?
Then again, if he wasn't again abortion so bad, those kids wouldnt be put up for adoption... But since he is against condoms too... Hmmm, hypocrite...

Again, if you disagree, don't be a Catholic. I was born and raised Catholic and I left because I don't agree with most of what they say or do but at the same time I'm not going to go ballistic on them because they are not forcing anyone to adhere to doctrine. Heretics and apostates (as defined by the RCC) are free to go and practice as they wish elsewhere.

And that's what they should do.

Thats your solution?
Pretty simplistic...

"if you dont like it, just turn around and walk away and let someone else solve the shit"...

[Bacardi4206]

kenmore kenmore:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

No, not all muslims are terrorists. Just all terrorists are muslim.

Thats not true and thats not my post... not all muslims are terrorists and there are many terrorists who are not muslim.. my belief and their agenda ( if you listen to them) is the conversion of the infidels (non muslim) and ruling of the world.. but building a mosque close to ground zero is really not a good idea.... in my humble opinion.

Well if you look above, I never said all muslims were terrorists. I said all terrorists were muslim. Theres a big difference. As one equals out to having a entire religious faith being terrorists which I am not saying. The other states that all known active terrorists consist of people who happen to be muslim. As well, I am not argueing your points. I have no beef with your opinion or correction of it.

[kenmore]

Brenda... in response to your post.. I didn't say I agree with it.. just that is the stand of the church.. We might live in 2010, but the pope goes by the bible and the word of God.. I doubt this pope will change anything anytime soon.. I am pro life, pro choice and pro same sex marriage. My daughter-inlaw is with the adoption dept. at the CAS.. she recently allowed the adoption of a child to a gay couple and a lesbian couple... and I am very proud of her as I am my gay brother

[pakistanif4life]

I don't really know if its a good thing or a bad thing. I think its meant to symbolize that USA accepts every religion and is an accommodating society which is a good thing but it may be taken in another way depending on the mindset of the person.

The location its being built at may act as a catalyst for propagandists and hate mongers who want to spread hate. They will just see it as a reminder that "Islam did this" as is evident from their war mongering.

I don't really think its a good idea to enrage the Anti Islamist fanatics any more. Personally I don;t think it should be built there. Too many people in US have anti muslim feelings. Its even spilled over to Canada somehow even though Canada sees itself distinct from US and admires deeply cultural harmony and diversity.

[Brenda]

$1:

I didn't say I agree with it.. just that is the stand of the church..

Explain to me what the difference is between you and the random muslim?

[ShepherdsDog]

pakistanif4life pakistanif4life:

I don't really know if its a good thing or a bad thing. I think its meant to symbolize that USA accepts every religion and is an accommodating society which is a good thing but it may be taken in another way depending on the mindset of the person.

The location its being built at may act as a catalyst for propagandists and hate mongers who want to spread hate. They will just see it as a reminder that "Islam did this" as is evident from their war mongering.

I don't really think its a good idea to enrage the Anti Islamist fanatics any more. Personally I don;t think it should be built there. Too many people in US have anti muslim feelings. Its even spilled over to Canada somehow even though Canada sees itself distinct from US and admires deeply cultural harmony and diversity.

It's also spilled into the Philippines, Thailand, Southern Sudan, Nigeria, China, India and most of Europe to name but a few places.