[Vanina]

Action has to be taken against the cops in both Mr. Khan's case as well as in the Dziekanski case if the RCMP wants to restore its image and gain the confidence of ordinary Canadians again. A message has to be sent that the law will be upheld in their case too, "off" or "on" duty.

[llama66]

good call Police and other Uniformed Officers are supposed to role models to the rest of us, and if they fuck up as impressively as these tools have, they deserve the book that will get chucked at them.

[EyeBrock]

lily lily:

I understand your point.... but the RCMP isn't involved in this case. All 4 departments are city forces.

They are all the same to the mob Lily.

Three cops screw up in BC so that means all the cops in Ontario, nay in the whole of Canada, are corrupt thugs.
Who want's to hear any other point of view? Not too many people on this forum.
Cops are guilty prior to their guilt being proven in a court of law. It would appear they have less rights than any other citizen.
They don't even have the right not be tried in the media or in forums like these.

It's amazing how people who have posted thought-out and intelligent points of view on other threads, default to becoming a baying cop-hating mob at the drop of a hat.

[Robair]

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Who, exactly, does have the "right" not to be tried in the median or on forums like these? We bash everybody from the exalted douchebag leaders of our country down to the lowest sex offending petty criminal.

Maybe you have a slight bias. Maybe you think officers of the law deserve special treatment... ?

[roger-roger]

Why shouldnt they?

[ziggy]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Why shouldnt they?

Why should they?

[roger-roger]

They deal with the law, there should be a separate process to prosecute them.

[ziggy]

Heres a case where I knew all the players involved.
Lot's of special treatment given to the officer who after he shot his prisoner twice went and got a camera and took some pics before even calling the ambulance.

Lots to read but you will see there is quite a double standard here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Varley

[roger-roger]

Ah, I thought by special treatment he ment specialized treatment, not a double standard.

[EyeBrock]

Robair Robair:

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Who, exactly, does have the "right" not to be tried in the median or on forums like these? We bash everybody from the exalted douchebag leaders of our country down to the lowest sex offending petty criminal.

Maybe you have a slight bias. Maybe you think officers of the law deserve special treatment... ?

No whining, just an observation of the 'rush to judge' by those amongst you how obviously like to cast the first stone.

I am all for cops being held accountable and if this plays out as it appears in the media, good riddance to bad rubbish.

But if it's not what it appears, lots of you are rushing to judge.

I hope if you are in the same jam robair, others will rush to judge you too.

[ridenrain]

... and if there was no independant witnessees or video, what then? A quiet cover-up and, at best, a quiet firing?

This forum is trial by public opinion but then we "chattering classes" have no power over the courts anyways. All we can do is bitch about it.

There will be a hearing and the truth will come out now, thanks to these independant witnesses.

[EyeBrock]

Lily, nobody gets charged unless there is a darned good reason to think they are guilty.

There may be more than the three but what percentage of the 150,000 good men and women in uniform is that?

Let's put all this in proportion or join the baying mob.

Plus, unlike everybody except maybe the CF, who else has acts of Parliament that regulate their jobs and exact punishment for non compliance other than cops?

But hey, facts tend to get in the way of mob lynchings.

[EyeBrock]

Cops are a cross-section of the society they are drawn from. Some arse-oles will get through.
When they do silly things they get charged like anybody else.

Maybe things are really different out West?

All I can say is that this kind of thing is not tolerated in my workplace. To tar us all, from all over Canada with the same brush you use on 7 cops from BC is patently unfair.

You should judge each situation on it's merits and avoid this mob mentality.

To class an entire profession on 7 guys is bordering on bigotry.

To do the same for an indentifiable minority would be racist. What's the difference in blaming all cops for the actions of 7 bad apples?

[EyeBrock]

Ok Lily, provide me with evidence that cops get treated differently.

[RUEZ]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

They deal with the law, there should be a separate process to prosecute them.

Why? The justice system is good enough for us, it's good enough for them.