Although, EyeBrock I do agree with your points you're missing the bigger picture.
Personally, I would like to see these bastards die a painful death, but the fact that they are "Canadian" citizens gives them protection under our charter.
We set a dangerous precedence when we start to pick and choose who deserves justice as a Canadian citizen.
Protection should be delivered equal regardless of the crime committed while abroad.
Yes, when they return home to Canada I can see now the PC's
This Rat Mother Fucker and his family lost all rights to be called a Canadian Citizen or any citizen of the civilized World the minute they sympathized with Bin Laden..
It's a damn shame he didn't get a round right between his fucking eyes!
Does it deprease you Harper is still the Prime Minister? Seriously get some help for your HDS
Johnny_Utah
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:29 am
kenmore kenmore:
I love how these people go over board to support this guy.. he is a known terrorist and shouldnt be brought back here..his family admit to its ties with bin laden.. I support Harper on this... keep him out!
Holy Shit, I Agree with Kermit!
Pimpbrewski
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:30 am
Deportation to his home country would seem like the better option. Or better yet, not give Canadian citizenship to terrorists in the 1st place.
But, then again, if they were to deport this traitor, the Canadian Govt just might have to fork out another 10 million, that if he simply just brings forth allegations that he gets tortured in the Middle East. Either way, the Canadian taxpayers are screwed.
That said, I guess it sends out the message that it's ok to go to the Middle East and throw grenades at soldiers. Sure, the Govt should sympathise and rush to bring these ''so called'' citizens back to Canada. Then have the media portray ''them'' as victims. Sure !!! That sounds like a great concept.
meaden24
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:41 am
well well well now who's "slinging" insults?? you're just piling up the reasons to not take anything you say seriously, looks like we can add hypocrite to the list. like I said before, I don't need confirmation from a little shit like you on something that I know I'm right about.
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tritium
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:41 am
Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:
Deportation to his home country would seem like the better option. Or better yet, not give Canadian citizenship to terrorists in the 1st place.
But, then again, if they were to deport this traitor, the Canadian Govt just might have to fork out another 10 million, that if he simply just brings forth allegations that he gets tortured in the Middle East. Either way, the Canadian taxpayers are screwed.
That said, I guess it sends out the message that it's ok to go to the Middle East and throw grenades at soldiers. Sure, the Govt should sympathise and bring these ''so called'' citizens back to Canada. Then have the media portray ''them'' as victims. Sure !!! That sounds like a great concept.
You don't think the media portraying him as the victim now under U.S. justice being tortured.
Bring him back to Canada and tuck him away in some small cell for the rest of his life and toss the key away. (...and forget about him)
If everyone dislikes this bastard now, what makes you think the Canadian Gov't would have the balls to release him, it would be political sucide.
ridenrain
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:42 am
Considering the Khadrs and the Liberals are directly linked, you'd thimk they would let this die but it's just another of the fatal flaws that the left has. They fought to let them in, fought to keep them here and supported them against huge popular opposition.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:48 am
ridenrain ridenrain:
tritium: You're the troll here. You start a thread based on letters to the editor, simply because it had a provocative headline. There's simply no substance here.
Lily: What are you adding to this thread by stalking people?
Why the hell would you send me an insulting PM on this? I'm not going to post it because I'm not an asshole but do not send me any more messages. This is a public discussion and if you're embarassed that this thread is based on crap, then you need to deal with that.
tritium
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:58 am
ridenrain ridenrain:
Considering the Khadrs and the Liberals are directly linked, you'd thimk they would let this die but it's just another of the fatal flaws that the left has. They fought to let them in, fought to keep them here and supported them against huge popular opposition.
Great so you're saying all Liberals are terrorist sympathizer??
As far as the PM.
$1:
The issue is the same as freedom of speech in Canada - we have to protect the speech we don't like as well as what we agree with.
Omar is Canadian, regardless of his crimes, he should get the same protection as any other Canadian.
We can't just pick and choose when the laws are convenient and when they are not, otherwise it's our laws become useless.
I'm not so sure how you could use that one against me.
Of course you wouldn't post that, it makes sense.
I'm done on this topic, you can't get blood from a stone and the future is unknown. Maybe he will rot in guantanamo, or maybe under political pressure Harper will have to bring him back to Canada to stand trial.
The future is unwritten....
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Streaker
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:00 am
Bodah Bodah:
tritium tritium:
I think we need to look at our obligation as a nation under International laws as well as providing equal rights to all Canadians.
These Laws ? Geneva Conventions regarding prisoners of war.,.
$1:
Article 16
Taking into consideration the provisions of the present Convention relating to rank and sex, and subject to any privileged treatment which may be accorded to them by reason of their state of health, age or professional qualifications, all prisoners of war shall be treated alike by the Detaining Power, without any adverse distinction based on race, nationality, religious belief or political opinions, or any other distinction founded on similar criteria.
$1:
Article 84
A prisoner of war shall be tried only by a military court, unless the existing laws of the Detaining Power expressly permit the civil courts to try a member of the armed forces of the Detaining Power in respect of the particular offence alleged to have been committed by the prisoner of war.
In no circumstances whatever shall a prisoner of war be tried by a court of any kind which does not offer the essential guarantees of independence and impartiality as generally recognized, and, in particular, the procedure of which does not afford the accused the rights and means of defence provided for in Article 105.
The detaining power in this case is the US, get over it.
Do you think it's okay to torture Khadr?
meaden24
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:03 am
"you can't get blood from a stone" how appropriate that those words would come from someone who believes the rights of terrorists are more important than the NATO lives he tried to end with his grenade.
Streaker
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:05 am
meaden24 meaden24:
"you can't get blood from a stone" how appropriate that those words would come from someone who believes the rights of terrorists are more important than the NATO lives he tried to end with his grenade.
Let's see that last part confirmed in court.
Mustang1
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:19 am
ridenrain ridenrain:
ridenrain ridenrain:
tritium: You're the troll here. You start a thread based on letters to the editor, simply because it had a provocative headline. There's simply no substance here.
Lily: What are you adding to this thread by stalking people?
Why the hell would you send me an insulting PM on this? I'm not going to post it because I'm not an asshole but do not send me any more messages. This is a public discussion and if you're embarassed that this thread is based on crap, then you need to deal with that.
Now you're accusing someone else of allegedly stalking? Is this the best you can do - resort to rhetoric? A pretty serious charge requires some evidence - got any?
ridenrain
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:21 am
Yeah.. I did a poll on it.
Zipperfish
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:25 am
ridenrain ridenrain:
ridenrain ridenrain:
tritium: You're the troll here. You start a thread based on letters to the editor, simply because it had a provocative headline. There's simply no substance here.
Lily: What are you adding to this thread by stalking people?
Why the hell would you send me an insulting PM on this? I'm not going to post it because I'm not an asshole but do not send me any more messages. This is a public discussion and if you're embarassed that this thread is based on crap, then you need to deal with that.
Do you ever have anything intelligent to add to a debate? God, it's like a broken record wiht you whining about the Liberals no matter what the topic is, and wanting the mods to come in and shut down any discussion of which you disapprove. You should move to North Korea. They don't allow any criticsm of government there, so you should be pretty happy.
P.S. Actually, you are an asshole.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:27 am
ridenrain ridenrain:
Yeah.. I did a poll on it.
Translation: nothing. You owe Lily a retraction - these are serious CKA rules violations, but, i guess when you've got little when there's nothing to ape, huh?