[Brenda]

You sure his babysister didn't get it for him? MrC's stories (true or not, exagerated as hell and annoying at times ) had a touch of reality in them, though... There are people living like that

All I know for sure, is that I got my first white wine at a party of my parents... I got drunk that night (I was 15), my mom stayed sober, helped me out, and I never got (that) drunk again. So, yeah, it worked for me. That party made a very deep impression, I learned my lesson, and my limits.

Anyway, that was a life lesson, and not the topic here. The point here is whether or not the punishment and the way she put it were appropriate. I don't think the way the ad was set up was necessary, and if this was his first offence, I think she is a mom from hell. Selling that car would be fine, imo, if everything else failed. Just the rule: no booze in the car, and first offence is selling, mwah, that is a tad strict... If it was the somaniest time, that would change the story. Just my $ .02

[ShepherdsDog]

getting loaded on wine is never a good idea. It gives the absolute worst hangovers. The stipulations were made when she bought the car. A contract was entered so to say. It was an easy rule to follow. Let him buy his own vehicle next time, register it in his name and then he can set the rules as to what is or isn't allowed in the vehicle.

When I lived at home until I was 17, I followed my parents rules and paid the consequences if I didn't. They abided by my rules when they visited my house. Fortunately neither of them smoke anymore, so there are no issues. My father in law, however, had to be asked to leave the house (and go sit on the patio) on several occasions.

[Brenda]

$1:

getting loaded on wine is never a good idea. It gives the absolute worst hangovers.

Exactly. My mom knew that

[Tricks]

Or you can just not get loaded... like me.

[DerbyX]

Tricks Tricks:

Or you can just not get loaded... like me.

Gay.

[ShepherdsDog]

Tricks Tricks:

Or you can just not get loaded... like me.

You're not loaded? I though everyone was saying you were full of it all the time. Sounds pretty loaded to me.

[Tricks]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Tricks Tricks:

Or you can just not get loaded... like me.

Gay.

Pffft, you wish it were gay. Not getting drunk is a helluva lot smarter then getting drunk for so many reasons. lol

[Tricks]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Tricks Tricks:

Or you can just not get loaded... like me.

You're not loaded? I though everyone was saying you were full of it all the time. Sounds pretty loaded to me.

Who said I was full of it!?

[Arctic_Menace]

Hearing about all these kids who do stuff that I do and getting utterly slammed for it gives me a relief that my parents aren't like that!

Hell, my parents always tell me when I'm going out to a party to "don't get too drunk".

[Brenda]

My mom used to tell me: "don't do things you wouldn't do if I were there"

[martin14]

Brenda Brenda:

My mom used to tell me: "don't do things you wouldn't do if I were there"

"Bah.. parents are so square, man.

House rules suck, man.

All the rules, man.. All just crampin my style, man.

You know, when i have kids, i'm gonna be cool with them, you know, let them smoke in the house,

and have some dope, you know it's cool"


Oh yeah.. just watch.. kids need boundaries.. and when they break them, sanctions must be applied.

The rule was ' no booze in the car '.. it was broken.. so the next level of punishment.

If this mother has gone over the top a bit, its a sign what she tried in the past didnt work.

We had the same discussion with the 15 yr old smoking smoking dope in the backyard and losing his guitar game xmas present.

[Arctic_Menace]

martin14 martin14:

Brenda Brenda:

My mom used to tell me: "don't do things you wouldn't do if I were there"

"Bah.. parents are so square, man.

House rules suck, man.

All the rules, man.. All just crampin my style, man.

You know, when i have kids, i'm gonna be cool with them, you know, let them smoke in the house,

and have some dope, you know it's cool"


Oh yeah.. just watch.. kids need boundaries.. and when they break them, sanctions must be applied.

The rule was ' no booze in the car '.. it was broken.. so the next level of punishment.

If this mother has gone over the top a bit, its a sign what she tried in the past didnt work.

We had the same discussion with the 15 yr old smoking smoking dope in the backyard and losing his guitar game xmas present.

I found this part interesting...

$1:

Oh yeah.. just watch.. kids need boundaries..

Hate to say it, but I'm living proof contrary to that.

My parents are very liberal and have given me a lot of space and respect. I've never had curfew, been sent to my room, grounded, or anything like that.

And yet, both parents know I occasionally smoke weed(Hell, my dad gave me three ounces for my 16th birthday) and they know that I drink at parties but they don't worry about it. Know why? Because they took the time to educate me about that kind of stuff and how to look out for stuff.

Since my parents have educated me about a whole whack of stuff and leave me to my own devices, that tells me that they trust me, and I don't want to break that trust. Because of that, I've never gone to jail, never been arrested(but have been in the back of several cop cars), never done something ridiculously stupid, never got a girl pregnant, never got hooked or even tried hard drugs, etc.

Educate your children and put some faith in them to make the right choice, and they'll turn out just fine.

[Blue_Nose]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

getting The stipulations were made when she bought the car. A contract was entered so to say. It was an easy rule to follow. Let him buy his own vehicle next time, register it in his name and then he can set the rules as to what is or isn't allowed in the vehicle.

Exactly - why people feel so sympathetic for a kid who got a car bought for him by his parents and proceeded to break 1 of 2 simple rules is beyond me.

The notion that the parent should be held hostage by the possible ramifications of strictly maintaining the agreement is stupid - if the guy leaves his mother over this, he's an asshole and that's not her fault.

What kind of lesson is this: "if you don't follow the rules, there won't be any serious consequences because you might not like them"? That's bullshit.