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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:57 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: bootlegga bootlegga: Cherry was given the chance to clarify or correct what he said, and he chose not to. Not according to him he wasn't. Not by Sportsnet. Why? Does CBC have some conveniently edited clip, or something? On Sunday night, Cherry did an interview with a Toronto talk radio show where he refused to apologize or even clarify what he meant, and early the next morning, he got fired. His 'repentance' that you posted (such as it is), didn't air until AFTER he got fired. Even then, he said he'd 'rather go out on his shield then become a simp.' OK, so I understand why you wouldn't want to post the link to that interview. Context doesn't help your point. The whole interview is here: https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-101 ... 1.10211195but here's the pertinent bit. $1: Digiulio quickly asked him if he wanted to clarify his remarks.
"I did not mean that. What I did mean everybody, not just the people that think it. Once you say your people, you people, you know you're in trouble and that's exactly what happened."
He added it would take a bit of time to get used to not working and being part of the broadcast.
"It's kind of strange to be unemployed, halfway through the season and of all days Remembrance Day, it's sad."
Cherry admitted he only found out about the backlash for the segment Sunday and that he has also received plenty of support and could have kept his job with an apology or two.
"I could have stayed on if I wanted to and knuckled under and turned into a simp. But that's not my style, I'd rather go out on my shield." He's correct. He had nothing to apologize for. He's most likely incorrect in thinking he would have received the same treatment as Ron Maclean if he'd wimped out and apologized for doing nothing wrong. Apologizing to cancel culture, regressive leftist, headhunters is always a mistake. All they'll do is rub their hands together, drool and apply added shame and punishment. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif) Cheers Don. As usual you were right. They were wrong. Enjoy you retirement. Hope some money perks kick in for you as a result of this.
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:00 pm
Five years from now people won't know who he is (or was.)
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:02 pm
$1: Apologizing to cancel culture, regressive leftist, headhunters is always a mistake.
Again, you're so sucked in by your own shit you missed that the greedy oinking money sucking pigmen who run the network were the ones who fired him. But then again your revisionist alt-right newspeak probably claims the running dog Wall St Imperiaists are "left"......
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:11 pm
And one more time, this is what he actually said:
There's nothing wrong with what he said there and that's why Ron Mclean gave him a thumbs up after he said it.
Sportsnet went after him for something they wished he said and somehow they've got some dummies convinced that what they wanted him to say so they could give him the ol' cancel culture heave ho is what he said.
And herb, if you don't think regressive leftists run sports media you don't listen to it much.
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:58 pm
Don who??? ![huh? [huh]](./images/smilies/icon_scratch.gif)
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:04 pm
I can't believe how blown out of proportion this whole thing has become. But, perhaps I shouldn't be shocked given how people tend to react to the opinions and comments of people from the entertainment industry. I'm looking forward to the next time a celebrity of any sort says something that gets interpreted in a way they did not intend to see if the same people call them out on it and want them hanged for it. Have no fear... I'm sure it will happen soon. Edit... to FOG a  for 2 of your posts on the previous page. No point in quoting and repeating them. I'd rep if I could.
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:05 pm
Strutz Strutz: I'm looking forward to the next time a celebrity of any sort says something that gets interpreted in a way they did not intend to see if the same people call them out on it and want them hanged for it. Have no fear... I'm sure it will happen soon. Myself, what I find more interesting is how a certain segment of the population can dance around in Black Face and still get voted in to lead a country or state or anchor the View. Or how somebody like the woman in Thanos's link can spew flat out bigotry while wearing smug all over her face and still have a job in the morning because she's hating on the race you are allowed to hate.
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:23 pm
Strutz Strutz: I can't believe how blown out of proportion this whole thing has become. Really ? Well, I guess it really does show you what kind of country you live in. $1: I'm looking forward to the next time a celebrity of any sort says something that gets interpreted in a way they did not intend to see if the same people call them out on it and want them hanged for it. Have no fear... I'm sure it will happen soon.
We just had an election where the winner can't even tell how many times he blacked up, or how many tits he has grabbed over the years. What other proof are you looking for ?
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:26 pm
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:36 am
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: You're missing the point. I was attempting to explain why it was a hatchet job by sportsnet and why both he and Kapnernick,lost their jobs.
When I was in the Navy I wasn't allowed to go around spouting "my opinion" on any topic related to the military because it wasn't my place to use their intellectual property to espouse my own beliefs or feelings, it was the Navy's and I would have been hung out to dry had I done anything so stupid.
But, by the same token they didn't give me 40 years of free reign to do just that and then pull the rug out from under my feet, hence the hatchet job claim.
It's the same with Kapernick and Cherry, both of them used someone else's intellectual property to air their own opinions and got burned for doing so which is only fair.
I don't think you meant 'intellectual property' there. Intellectual property usually refers to an idea or process that an entity has thought up, and belongs to that entity exclusively. What they did was possibly cause confusion between their own opinions and the opinion of the company they work for. Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: I get that you hate Don Cherry but it doesn't take away from the fact that his fate was sealed over a decade ago and his new bosses just needed the right excuse to carry out the execution.
If that's what you got, then you don't get it. I don't give a rats ass about Cherry. That's why I called him a clown earlier in the thread. I care that he; all the people that are apologizing for him; and all the other people I see recently who think it's perfectly fine to bash minorities because everyone else is bashing minorities. It's a trend in Canadian society that needs to stop, even if it's just my tiny voice speaking out on a website no one has ever heard of.
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:37 am
llama66 llama66: Don was out of his lane with his statements. He could have berated us all for not wearing a poppy, I would have been fine with that. His phrasing of “You people that come here … whatever it is, you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey, at least you could pay a couple of bucks for a poppy,” put it over the top. I get freedom of thought, and expression and all that other jazz but you plain can't seemingly attack a group of people on HNIC.
I respect Don Cherry, but he needed to go. He had become out of step with the modern iteration of Hockey. Yep, and that's despite the props I give him for all he does to highlight veterans and sick kids.
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:52 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: I care that he; all the people that are apologizing for him; and all the other people I see recently who think it's perfectly fine to bash minorities because everyone else is bashing minorities. It's a trend in Canadian society that needs to stop, even if it's just my tiny voice speaking out on a website no one has ever heard of.
Thank you for this!
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:55 am
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: OK, so I understand why you wouldn't want to post the link to that interview. Context doesn't help your point. The whole interview is here: https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-101 ... 1.10211195but here's the pertinent bit. Actually, here's the pertinent bit: "I could have stayed on if I wanted to and knuckled under and turned into a simp. But that's not my style, I'd rather go out on my shield." AKA, sorry not sorry, fuck off I'm not apologizing. Then the next morning, he got fired.
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:10 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb: I don't think you meant 'intellectual property' there. Intellectual property usually refers to an idea or process that an entity has thought up, and belongs to that entity exclusively. What they did was possibly cause confusion between their own opinions and the opinion of the company they work for. Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: I get that you hate Don Cherry but it doesn't take away from the fact that his fate was sealed over a decade ago and his new bosses just needed the right excuse to carry out the execution.
If that's what you got, then you don't get it. I don't give a rats ass about Cherry. That's why I called him a clown earlier in the thread. I care that he; all the people that are apologizing for him; and all the other people I see recently who think it's perfectly fine to bash minorities because everyone else is bashing minorities. It's a trend in Canadian society that needs to stop, even if it's just my tiny voice speaking out on a website no one has ever heard of. Nope, I meant intellectual property. $1: in·tel·lec·tu·al prop·er·ty nounLAW a work or invention that is the result of creativity, such as a manuscript or a design, to which one has rights and for which one may apply for a patent, copyright, trademark, etc. Coaches corner is a trademarked program on Hockey Night in Canada as is the NFL brand. Both of which were co-opted by their employees. Oh and for the record my argument has nothing to do with morals ethics or values and everything to do with inappropriate actions using someone else's trademarked property. Oddly enough I agree with you on one thing though. People shouldn't defend the indefensible and if that includes Trudeau's blackface and ethics violations or Don Cherry's calling out people who don't wear poppies immigrants included then so be it. But, unfortunately seeing how polarized our society has become the bashing by committee isnt' going to stop anytime soon especially given the impact of social media and the large portion of easily led morons who dwell in it.
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