[Coach85]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Can't deny that.

Sometimes I remind myself of the gopher who pokes his head out of the safety of his den to see what the whistling is all about outside, and gets a 22 slug pasted between his beady little eyes.

Then again...the graphic of that hag displaying herself ISIS style with a sitting president's severed head dangling from her bony hypocrite fingers...well, that's quite the whistle.

There's lots of hypocrisy to go around.

The endless amount of images of Obama in equally disturbing settings had little to no reaction from the right. It was funny and acceptable.

[N_Fiddledog]

Your first sentence is fair. I'm not sure the second one is.

I don't think the Obama examples equate with Griffin's severed head attack. If Obama ever had gotten one like that we'd still be hearing about it. The news of the Griffin disgrace would lead off with that incident from the Obama years.

There were incidents though, of course. Hanging effigies, Pics of Obama as Hitler and such. You can match them up better with the ones Bush received, I think. Except Bush got more.

[Coach85]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Your first sentence is fair. I'm not sure the second one is.

I don't think the Obama examples equate with Griffin's severed head attack. If Obama ever had gotten one like that we'd still be hearing about it. The news of the Griffin disgrace would lead off with that incident from the Obama years.

There were incidents though, of course. Hanging effigies, Pics of Obama as Hitler and such. You can match them up better with the ones Bush received, I think. Except Bush got more.

You had Obama many effigies of him being hanged, burned while being hanged, compared to Bin Laden. Most of these when his children were the same age as Baron Trump. I think you have political blinders on when you say Bush had it worse. Of the last 3 Presidents, Obama had it worse....and Trump was one of those people attacking him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxjPHAg0T64

Saying a burning & hanging effigy isn't as bad as a severed head is just splitting hairs. American conservatives have short memories.

What would happen today if we had a "Burn Trump" day all over America, broadcasted live on Facebook and Youtube? The right would go insane!

[N_Fiddledog]

Just for the Hell of it I image-searched 'burned in effigy' with the names Obama and Bush.

Now what my admittedly biased eyes tell me from that is it's no contest. The majority of the Obama pics appear to come from other countries. The Bush ones appear more in amount in general with more local examples.

If I'm wrong about that though, by all means, show me.

I tried an image search on Trump too. Turns out Trump is already getting burned in effigy, so why is it Kathy Griffin's bloody beheading pic that's getting all the press? Did the media all of a sudden switch their loyalties to Pro Trump, or was there something thing so outrageous about the Griffin pic that the people turned it into viral news that refused to be sluffed off to the more easily ignored, ghetto sections of media.

I think this one's from outside LA city Hall.



You'll like this one, but it's from Britain.

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A 36-foot model of Donald Trump holding Hillary Clinton's head was burned during annual bonfire celebrations in a British town on Saturday night.

The Edenbridge Bonfire Society selects a public figure each year and organizers say the U.S. presidential candidate was the overwhelming choice for this year's celebrity effigy.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... re-n678481

[Coach85]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Just for the Hell of it I image-searched 'burned in effigy' with the names Obama and Bush.

Now what my admittedly biased eyes tell me from that is it's no contest. The majority of the Obama pics appear to come from other countries. The Bush ones appear more in amount in general with more local examples.

If I'm wrong about that though, by all means, show me.

When you look at images and assume the location and combine that with your bias, it's not really a surprise that you followed your own bias to come to that conclusion.

I'm not going to count the amount of images, their origin and come back to you when your bias isn't really interested in the outcome.

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

I tried an image search on Trump too. Turns out Trump is already getting burned in effigy, so why is it Kathy Griffin's bloody beheading pic that's getting all the press? Did the media all of a sudden switch their loyalties to Pro Trump, or was there something thing so outrageous about the Griffin pic that the people turned it into viral news that refused to be sluffed off to the more easily ignored, ghetto sections of media.

Because she's a pseudo-celebrity not some nutjob on his front lawn.

She has an audience, celebrity status and gigs on major TV networks.

If this type of behavior is unacceptable, it should be unacceptable to all.

Conservatives can't be outraged about this Trump decapitation stunt when they sat back and chuckled while Obama was hanged and burned in effigy all because of some hack comedian.

[N_Fiddledog]

Coach85 Coach85:

When you look at images and assume the location and combine that with your bias, it's not really a surprise that you followed your own bias to come to that conclusion.

No. I clicked the view site button at the image-search as well. The problem with the LA pic was I had to use an example from an international site, because the local pics were too large and I didn't feel like messing about with them. But the same pic was at the LA Times and it said it was taken outside City Hall. I'm more confident than I sounded that the pic was local.

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I'm not going to count the amount of images, their origin

Very well. I won't either then. We'll just have to admit that as to that and the rest of your post we have conflicting opinions.

Although here's another opinion. I believe this is one of those cases where a claim of 'no bias' feels an awful lot like a bias.

[herbie]

Coach85 Coach85:

You all have given her far more attention and credit than she deserves. You've made her more famous than she was before because you gave her photo weight by the reaction to it.

She's been on the d-list for ages. Famous for being terrible. You've made her relevant.

No shit.
A "meh" pun bad taste joke as relevant to art as graphic novels are to literature. Meaningless as dead baby jokes and feeding Bush cutouts through a shredder that "goes too far" for a populace laughing at JackAss vids of people hurting themselves.
Ohhhhh the outrage. Thanos is right, the asteroid can't come soon enough.
I say again, "Oh, just fuck off."

[N_Fiddledog]

Very well, and if we're relying on purple rhetoric and bad metaphor for a point Herb, one can't help noticing your crap above makes about as much sense as barbecuing a popsicle for dinner.

As to the "fuck off," you first hero.

[Thanos]

herbie herbie:

Coach85 Coach85:

You all have given her far more attention and credit than she deserves. You've made her more famous than she was before because you gave her photo weight by the reaction to it.

She's been on the d-list for ages. Famous for being terrible. You've made her relevant.

No shit.
A "meh" pun bad taste joke as relevant to art as graphic novels are to literature. Meaningless as dead baby jokes and feeding Bush cutouts through a shredder that "goes too far" for a populace laughing at JackAss vids of people hurting themselves.
Ohhhhh the outrage. Thanos is right, the asteroid can't come soon enough.
I say again, "Oh, just fuck off."

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[Coach85]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Although here's another opinion. I believe this is one of those cases where a claim of 'no bias' feels an awful lot like a bias.

Where exactly do you see bias?

Not sharing the same opinion and/or outrage about a situation doesn't make one biased.

[Public_Domain]

[N_Fiddledog]

Here's a clip from the script of the Tucker Carlson vid on the previous page. You should at least have a general idea what has you all so upset. Thought I'd help.

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Consider carefully what she said today. Griffin publicly fantasizes violently about murdering the President, yet she holds a press conference to announce she’s the one who has been wronged. Trump and his family bullied her she says, so have unnamed older white guys who have oppressed her despite giving her a series of very high paying jobs. In other words, she is the real victim here. Of course she is, liberals are always the victims.

Being the victim is virtually what it means to be a member of progressive America. It has more benefits it turns out than AAA and it’s free. It means never having to say you’re sorry. It also means being right even when you’re wrong. Victimhood is the modern equivalent of holiness, it excuses anything. That’s why liberals will say almost anything no matter how ludicrous to get it. Do you remember when President Obama the most powerful human being in history use to imply that he was somehow the victim of racial bias?

Did you catch Hillary Clinton the other day, a woman so rich and pampered, she hasn’t driven her own car in 30 years complain that sexism prevented her from becoming even richer and more pampered. Before you laugh, remember that overpaid sports figures make these kinds of claims all the time, entertainers — even TV anchors and now even third-rate unfunny comedians. We see a trend here because there is one.

Wait, if the most powerful and richest people on the planet can be victims, who can’t be a victim? Good question. The most remarkable thing about victimhood is it allows the alleged victims to commit the very offenses they are complaining about. They will punch you in the face and accuse you of assault. Or more specifically smash you in the head with the bike lock and then complain you’re making them feel unsafe.

They’ll crush a bible club at a school they've never even been to and then tell you that other people’s beliefs oppressed them. They will take over a college campus forcing spineless administrators to enact every one of their demands and then claim to be powerless victims of a climate of racism. And then they will conduct nationwide witch-hunts for Christian, small businesses trying to shut them down if they don’t violate their own faith.

They will throw illiterate refugees into cash-strapped public schools and call you a bigot for questioning it. All while they flee to $50,000 a year private schools for their own kinds. And then of course, they will fly private even as they berate you for destroying the world with your SUV.

It used to be that the point of running a country was to make things better for the people who live there. That has changed. Now the goal - and it’s almost explicit - is to achieve moral superiority over the population, often while making their lives worse. It’s quite a trick and victimhood makes it possible.

[herbie]

Oh FFS anybody walks up and feeds me a total line of bullshit, I'll laugh and tell them oh just fuck off.
BTW your endless 'typical liberal behaviour' and buzzwords from your dredged up Internet idols is becoming an "our allies don't trust us" signature.

[Freakinoldguy]

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