[Thanos]

Milo's doing the yeoman's work on this atrocity today. Too many accurate observations to comment on individually. "The problem with putting Muslims on top of your victim hierarchy list is that THEY WANT TO KILL EVERYONE ELSE ON THE LIST" stands out though.

https://twitter.com/Nero

[OnTheIce]

BRAH BRAH:

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

Whom are you referring to? Those on the Right and even the Left are tired of seeing innocent people killed by Radical Islamic Terrorists while the usual suspects continue to live in denial.

Neither side helps with the situation. Your side and the other. This isn't a political problem.

Your side is absolutely rabid and the other side in complete denial.

Your side doesn't need the opinion of the radical right, the ones that really do an injustice to these situations because they foam at the mouth and often say completely stupid and irrational things when just the facts will do. Their stupidity becomes the focus rather than the facts.

The left continues to walk around with blinders on. Pretending and hoping that each of these events is a non-Muslim and then coming back time and time again with the same mantra. Islam is good, blah, blah, blah.

The World has a problem with terrorism. Specifically, Islamic Terrorism. Let's tone down the nonsense, remove our heads from our asses and tackle this problem.

[Brenda]

fifeboy fifeboy:

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

Doesn't appear so.

Or the 53 wounded... or the families of all those people who still have no idea (other than 7...) what happened to their loved ones and whether they are still alive...

Or the ex wife of 7 years who has nothing to do with this...

[Thanos]

Brenda Brenda:

fifeboy fifeboy:

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

Doesn't appear so.

Or the 53 wounded... or the families of all those people who still have no idea (other than 7...) what happened to their loved ones and whether they are still alive...

Or the ex wife of 7 years who has nothing to do with this...

Apparently, just like what happened at the Bataclan in Paris, while the paramedics and firemen were removing the bodies the victim's cell phones kept ringing as their families and friends tried to get in contact with them. Absolutely heart breaking.

[BRAH]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

BRAH BRAH:

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

Whom are you referring to? Those on the Right and even the Left are tired of seeing innocent people killed by Radical Islamic Terrorists while the usual suspects continue to live in denial.

Neither side helps with the situation. Your side and the other. This isn't a political problem.

Your side is absolutely rabid and the other side in complete denial.

Your side doesn't need the opinion of the radical right, the ones that really do an injustice to these situations because they foam at the mouth and often say completely stupid and irrational things when just the facts will do. Their stupidity becomes the focus rather than the facts.

The left continues to walk around with blinders on. Pretending and hoping that each of these events is a non-Muslim and then coming back time and time again with the same mantra. Islam is good, blah, blah, blah.

The World has a problem with terrorism. Specifically, Islamic Terrorism. Let's tone down the nonsense, remove our heads from our asses and tackle this problem.

The right side is the one who sees this for what it is and one would think after 9/11, Bernardino, Brussels, London, Madrid, Paris the other side would have taken their heads out of their asses.

[Brenda]

Can you imagine being a rescue worker, or an investigator, you are dealing with the dead person in front of you, and their phone rings. Mom...

[BRAH]

Brenda Brenda:

Can you imagine being a rescue worker, or an investigator, you are dealing with the dead person in front of you, and their phone rings. Mom...

Bernardino, Brussels, London, Madrid, Orlando, Paris no can't even begin to imagine being a rescue worker responding to those.

[Thanos]

Brenda Brenda:

Can you imagine being a rescue worker, or an investigator, you are dealing with the dead person in front of you, and their phone rings. Mom...

$1:

I think of the chimp, the one with the talking hands.

In the course of the experiment, that chimp had a baby. Imagine how her trainers must have thrilled when the mother, without prompting, began to sign her newborn.

Baby, drink milk.

Baby, play ball.

And when the baby died, the mother stood over the body, her wrinkled hands moving with animal grace, forming again and again the words: Baby, come hug, Baby come hug, fluent now in the language of grief.

“The Cemetery Where Al Jolson is Buried”

- Amy Hempel

[Khar]

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

No, but that's not really special here, is it?

Whenever a mass shooter commits his crime, his victims get 15 minutes on television and the shooter will get 15 days. It doesn't matter that most criminal experts, psychologists, and law enforcement officials recommend against that in the prevention of future crimes, nor how morally outrageous it is that shooters get levels of celebrity, nothing will stand between the media and their new mugshot for the next two weeks of macabre.

Just plain disgusting.

BRAH BRAH:

The truth is LGBTQ's in the Middle East live in hiding with targets on their backs with the fear of being executed or punished for who they are. Until the Left accepts this we're F****d!

BRAH BRAH:

$1:

The liberal gay community calls men like me "bigots," and sucks up to Muslim terrorists. That's reality. Take ownership of your choices.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/742106021045411840

BRAH BRAH:

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

Whom are you referring to? Those on the Right and even the Left are tired of seeing innocent people killed by Radical Islamic Terrorists while the usual suspects continue to live in denial.

The GLBT community is more than aware of just how dangerous the world is for us. We get shot in the USA, stabbed in Israel, firebombed in the Balkans, stoned in Eastern Europe, arrested across Asia and murdered across South America and Africa. We're also active in trying to change that, or protesting that; we protest ISIS, still go to events and parades in countries full of fundamentalists who attack them year after year, and still go to clubs like this one, even after arsons, shootings like this one, or being tortured for being seen at them in the last handful of years in the USA alone.

Guess it's time to finally care, because Muslims are involved. Gee, talk about blinders.

The gay community is more than aware of exactly who hate us, and the idea that we are unaware or silent on the issues facing us is fucking hilarious. Then again, usually the complaint about the community is that we are too loud, that we don't need a pride parade because we have nothing to advocate for. The gay community doesn't suck up to terrorists. A majority of gay people who are used to being shit on by people are well aware that no man represents everyone in their ethnicity, or their religion, or their orientation, what have you. We're used to being the target of just about every horrible regime or shitty fundamentalist group on the face of the planet. We're also used to people finding out we're gay, and immediately equating that to meaning we're pedohpiles, or animal fuckers, or scatters, or that we're mentally unstable. The idea that, as a community, we can accept that there are those who are Muslim who aren't terrorists seems to confuse far too many people in these situations given our own background.

This is because not all Muslims are terrorists. A lot of Muslims are gay. Saying that is all too often equivocated with "there are no Muslim terrorists." Yes, the gay community is well aware of the hatred many fundamentalists have of us. Every month or year there's some sort of massacre or something similar that reminds us of it. No, we're not clueless. There are gays who believe that Islam is evil in and of itself. There are others who believe that of all religion. Others who are religious. Many more who believe you can't judge a person based on their religion or religious peers. There's a pretty damning duality, though, when we watch the same people who have been calling for lakes of fire and hell on damnation on all of us queers and see those same people call for the ban of Muslims, etc, even though the mass majority don't have a criminal record, let alone a reputation for extremism, in the United States.

103 people are dead or injured, and their deaths are overshadowed with snarky comments about gay people learning their lesson about Muslims. Just how sad is that? What wonderful condolences to the friends and families of victims of this atrocity.

[fifeboy]

Khar Khar:

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

No, but that's not really special here, is it?

Whenever a mass shooter commits his crime, his victims get 15 minutes on television and the shooter will get 15 days. It doesn't matter that most criminal experts, psychologists, and law enforcement officials recommend against that in the prevention of future crimes, nor how morally outrageous it is that shooters get levels of celebrity, nothing will stand between the media and their new mugshot for the next two weeks of macabre.

Just plain disgusting.

BRAH BRAH:

The truth is LGBTQ's in the Middle East live in hiding with targets on their backs with the fear of being executed or punished for who they are. Until the Left accepts this we're F****d!

BRAH BRAH:

$1:

The liberal gay community calls men like me "bigots," and sucks up to Muslim terrorists. That's reality. Take ownership of your choices.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/742106021045411840

BRAH BRAH:

MeganC MeganC:

No one really cares about the people who died, do they?

Whom are you referring to? Those on the Right and even the Left are tired of seeing innocent people killed by Radical Islamic Terrorists while the usual suspects continue to live in denial.

The GLBT community is more than aware of just how dangerous the world is for us. We get shot in the USA, stabbed in Israel, firebombed in the Balkans, stoned in Eastern Europe, arrested across Asia and murdered across South America and Africa. We're also active in trying to change that, or protesting that; we protest ISIS, still go to events and parades in countries full of fundamentalists who attack them year after year, and still go to clubs like this one, even after arsons, shootings like this one, or being tortured for being seen at them in the last handful of years in the USA alone.

Guess it's time to finally care, because Muslims are involved. Gee, talk about blinders.

The gay community is more than aware of exactly who hate us, and the idea that we are unaware or silent on the issues facing us is fucking hilarious. Then again, usually the complaint about the community is that we are too loud, that we don't need a pride parade because we have nothing to advocate for. The gay community doesn't suck up to terrorists. A majority of gay people who are used to being shit on by people are well aware that no man represents everyone in their ethnicity, or their religion, or their orientation, what have you. We're used to being the target of just about every horrible regime or shitty fundamentalist group on the face of the planet. We're also used to people finding out we're gay, and immediately equating that to meaning we're pedohpiles, or animal fuckers, or scatters, or that we're mentally unstable. The idea that, as a community, we can accept that there are those who are Muslim who aren't terrorists seems to confuse far too many people in these situations given our own background.

This is because not all Muslims are terrorists. A lot of Muslims are gay. Saying that is all too often equivocated with "there are no Muslim terrorists." Yes, the gay community is well aware of the hatred many fundamentalists have of us. Every month or year there's some sort of massacre or something similar that reminds us of it. No, we're not clueless. There are gays who believe that Islam is evil in and of itself. There are others who believe that of all religion. Others who are religious. Many more who believe you can't judge a person based on their religion or religious peers. There's a pretty damning duality, though, when we watch the same people who have been calling for lakes of fire and hell on damnation on all of us queers and see those same people call for the ban of Muslims, etc, even though the mass majority don't have a criminal record, let alone a reputation for extremism, in the United States.

103 people are dead or injured, and their deaths are overshadowed with snarky comments about gay people learning their lesson about Muslims. Just how sad is that? What wonderful condolences to the friends and families of this atrocity.

Thank you for that!

[Thanos]

Sorry, but every gay person in this photo needs to grab a fucking clue.



"Say no to Islamophobia"? Does that apply equally to all other anti-gay religions? Does that means that the Catholic Church that's been fucking gays over since forever is also due for some forgiveness and understanding?



"Gays against Islamophobia? That makes as much sense as Jews For National Socialism"

- Milo

[shockedcanadian]

Another dirtbag, cowardly, son of a dog.

I hope he receives the same treatment in hell that he showed to others on earth.

[BeaverFever]

Well in defence of the cartoon I don't blame her for confusing extremist Republicans and extremist Islamists, in so many ways they're just different flavours of the same Ice Cream.

But as I've said 1000 times before liberals don't defend intolerance from any religious fundamentalists including Islamists. And opposing islamophobia is not in any way related to tolerating or supporting islamism.

But of course since conservatives live on a toxic mixture of selective amnesia and deliberate lies, I imagine I'll have to say it 1000 more times.

[shockedcanadian]

Just a few months ago ISIS tossed two gay lovers off of a building. These savages and their cowardly followers don't give a damn about equal rights or democracy for women, gays, non-Islamics.

[Thanos]

Relevant part begins at about 1:10.