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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:25 pm
 


Paris is rallying. Taxis have turned off their meters and are giving rides for free, and people are opening their homes to people who can't make it home.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:30 pm
 


andyt andyt:
I do wonder why France is the chosen target here. I hear they have an excellent security apparatus, you would think the US and Britain would be the chosen targets. If it's about the number of Muslims in the country, Britain certainly has their share. Maybe it's where the Muslims come from?

I certainly hope this gives JT pause in his rush to bring in the refugees by the end of the year.

It's coming to Canada one way or another as we are not imune to it and that's not fear mongering. France has had issues with Muslims for years as the country has become a breeding ground for recruitment, the riots, Charlie Hebdo.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:31 pm
 


At his point im truly sick and tired of this.

Being from Canada it's hard to get you average Canadian fed up. We go out of our way to make relationships go smoothly. We're world famous not for or booze (though we should be ) or our cuisine ( poutine) but for apologizing all the time.

So keeping line with that i will apologize for wishing that that we should have stricter security, and again apologize to my ultra-liberal friends in that we should no longer tolerate intolerance. That means if you think that your own version religion or world view thinks you get to tell people what to do, then just plain get out. We seem to have lost the sense of common sense values and bend over politically correctly speaking to be sure no offend someone that we seem to have discarded the core of what makes our society work.

Je suis Charlie

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:33 pm
 


raydan raydan:
BRAH BRAH:
raydan raydan:
Martial Law?


We call it "War Measures Act" and it was brought into force three times in Canadian history.

Wasn't Trudeau the last PM to use it?

Yup...


Even then the media were idiots, not a fan of his but honestly what the hell was he supposed to do?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:45 pm
 


raydan raydan:
It's unprecedented for a Western Nation.
Wasn't Trudeau the last PM to use it?
Yup...

I'm an old guy.
I was there.
Je me souviens.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:53 pm
 


I wasn't... we were living in NS at the time and moved back to Québec the next year.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:57 pm
 


I could feel it in Vancouver. I was already used to being stopped by the cops for no reason, and it was spooky to realize I didn't have any rights at the time. I wonder how many abuses of the act there were in Quebec at the time.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:01 pm
 


I guess this will take the 24K Syrian refugees the French were going to take in off the table and likely put the final nail in the coffin of that bleeding heart Angela Merkel's EU leadership.

This is beyond deplorable and anyone who thinks it can't happen here in Canada is delusional because given the ease with which attacks like this are carried out, it's not a case of if but, when.

So, here's hoping that none of the 25K " Syrian refugees" the Liberals plan on blessing us with don't turn out to be radical members of the Religion of Peace.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:13 pm
 


It only took 19 to carry out 9-11, and a few more to do London and Madrid. I'm not saying we should deny legitimate refugees, but the screening process needs to be extremely thorough. It has to happen overseas and not on our shores.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:14 pm
 


This was a terrorist attack against a member of NATO, doesn't that mean NATO is now at War against ISIS and Justin can't withdraw the F18's?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:22 pm
 


I think the NATO council has to invoke that article first; it doesn't go into effect immediately.

Also, ISIS isn't a recognised nation state.

Still, if it was ISIS behind this, I'd say it's finally time to make Raqqah look like Passchendale after the war.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:31 pm
 


andyt andyt:
I do wonder why France is the chosen target here. I hear they have an excellent security apparatus, you would think the US and Britain would be the chosen targets. If it's about the number of Muslims in the country, Britain certainly has their share. Maybe it's where the Muslims come from?

I certainly hope this gives JT pause in his rush to bring in the refugees by the end of the year.

Actually a security guy on CBC said that ISIS has been warning about this and it could be the start of world wide attacks.


My guess is that like pretty much all of the attacks in recent years, this was carried out by local extremists who attacked France because that's the country they already lived in. So far, ISIS hasn't been very concerned with attacking foreign countries, if at all. Their focus seems to be conquering territory in Iraq and Syria and trying to establish an actual country of their own to start their Caliphate. In fact I read somewhere that the ISIS founders' main complaint about Al Qaeda was that AQs terrorist attacks abroad don't accomplish anything. Sure ISIS encourages mulims all over the world to attack their governments but they don't seem to provide much in terms of material or training support for it and it seems they would prefer jihadis travel to their Caliphate instead.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:31 pm
 


At my job, there are a lot of French people. They were all on their cell phones and watching the lounge TV screen. One of them heard about one of his friend who was in the theater but succeeded to get away... :|


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:41 pm
 


raydan raydan:
I wasn't... we were living in NS at the time and moved back to Québec the next year.

I remember sitting in grade ten history class, discussing the War Measures act when an army Iroquois helicopter landed straight outside our window in the open field right next door to our school. There was a rumour that Paul Rose was at MacDonsld College out in Ste Anne de Bellvue, where he had been a student and the area as alive with police and Army patrols. At the same time as our helicopter, my brother, who was a student at MacDonald then was briefly held at gun point by a policeman with a Sterling SmG. They were going down the halls in force, kicking in every door, safetys (off?).

If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I would have a hard time believing that Canada could do that to itself ... and so quickly, too. Some years later, a boss of mine recounted how he, as a young (and Scottish Anglo) Captain in the Canadian army had a platoon of Francophone soldiers in his command and how he wondered, if everything went bad and it really was the start of a civil war, whether he was going to be shot from behind by his own troops.

One more thing about him. Part of the contingency planning for armed insurrection in Montreal involved isolating the island. That included wiring the bridges to Montreal Island with explosives to blow them, if necessary. I can't confirm if that was actually done (the wiring, not the blowing) but it would not surprise me if it was actually done. One thing that was one by my bosses troops, is that they located a Vulcan (battling gun) at one end of the Mercier Bridge to "take control" of it. (Take a look at a You Tube of a Vulcan).


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:50 pm
 


xerxes xerxes:
I think the NATO council has to invoke that article first; it doesn't go into effect immediately.

Also, ISIS isn't a recognised nation state.

Still, if it was ISIS behind this, I'd say it's finally time to make Raqqah look like Passchendale after the war.

Neither was al Qaeda, so we went after their mentors, the Taliban.

So, who mentors ISIS? Hmmm. How about Pakistan?


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