[ShepherdsDog]

The reptilian delegation is pissed that they were left out.

[N_Fiddledog]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

That's what they'd have you believe. IN actual fact, left-wing liberal media moguls like Conrad Black and Rupert Murdoch gathered secretly last night in Switzerland to discuss how they could exploit this photo in order to make the Prime Minister of Canada look bad.

Conrad Black? I thought the courts retired him from the media rackets.

See the problem with convincing the greater unwashed there is no left wing media bias is you'll have to get them all to stop watching or reading media. Many did not get the higher learning at Progversities necessary to ignore the obvious.

[Zipperfish]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Conrad Black? I thought the courts retired him from the media rackets.

See the problem with convincing the greater unwashed there is no left wing media bias is you'll have to get them all to stop watching or reading media. Many did not get the higher learning necessary to ignore the obvious.

No, the problem is that the current radical right are remarkably fact resistant. Think of global warming. They've got it in their heads that all the world's scientists have teamed up with the socialists to pull the granddaddy of all pranks ever in order to institute a one-world government.

Fact: In Vancouver, all four major daily newspapers have endorsed the Conservatvies in the last two elections. If, in fact, the mainstream media were biased to the left, this would not have happened.

[N_Fiddledog]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Conrad Black? I thought the courts retired him from the media rackets.

See the problem with convincing the greater unwashed there is no left wing media bias is you'll have to get them all to stop watching or reading media. Many did not get the higher learning necessary to ignore the obvious.

No, the problem is that the current radical right are remarkably fact resistant. Think of global warming. They've got it in their heads that all the world's scientists have teamed up with the socialists to pull the granddaddy of all pranks ever in order to institute a one-world government.

Fact: In Vancouver, all four major daily newspapers have endorsed the Conservatvies in the last two elections. If, in fact, the mainstream media were biased to the left, this would not have happened.

You've got your one stat from 4 years ago, and so what. Look at who the opposition was. No media owner wants to go broke. Left or right.

As far as content is concerned though and specifically whether or not there's a left wing bias, the defence to that is "Look at it."

As to whether or not political bias of science is possible, here's something to Google - Lysenko. But there are more.

[Zipperfish]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

You've got your one stat from 4 years ago, and so what. Look at who the opposition was. No media owner wants to go broke. Left or right.

As far as content is concerned though and specifically whether or not there's a left wing bias, the defence to that is "Look at it."

As to whether or not political bias of science is possible, here's something to Google - Lysenko. But there are more.

Like I said--remarkably fact resistant. In the last two elections all four major dailies in Vancouver have backed teh Conservatives. If the mainstream media were indeed biased to the left, this would not have happened.

[N_Fiddledog]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

In the last two elections all four major dailies in Vancouver have backed teh Conservatives. If the mainstream media were indeed biased to the left, this would not have happened.

Sure it would have. Media owners want to make money.

As to content bias, some like the Vancouver Province are what's called "Middle Market", which Wikipedia describes as " one that attempts to cater to readers who want some entertainment from their newspaper as well as the coverage of important news events." I'd put CTV in that category as well.

Vancouver Sun leans left.

The Globe and Mail - left.

National Post (since they've switched ownership) - left - big fans of Mulcair

Toronto (Red) Star - left.

CBC - left.

Global - left.

[N_Fiddledog]

Now some media does flavor Right. On this you will, of course, agree with me.

Let's look at what one of them has to say about this Aylan Kurdi story, and see what we've been missing out on from the other media.

$1:

It’s a tragedy that should have brought out the best in all of us.

Unfortunately, the New Democrats and Liberals tried to use it to attack Chris Alexander and the Conservatives and depict them as heartless and cruel, in the most unethical and immoral manner.

To understand the calamity unfolding in the Mediterranean, illustrated by the photograph of Kurdi, we need to step back a century, but even a year is helpful.

In essence, it’s the story of a Kurdish family that fled an Arab country after an Islamist attack and took refuge across the border in Turkey, a country known for its hostility towards its own Kurdish population.

In the words of the boy’s aunt in Vancouver, the treatment of her family in Turkey was “horrible.”

Instead of targeting the most visible and apparent villains in this drama — the Assad regime in Syria, the Turks, ISIS, Saudi Arabia and Qatar — the Liberals and the NDP sharpened their knives and went after Alexander, the very man who has been quietly helping people escape tyranny and settle down in Canada.

We cannot lose sight of the Syrian Revolution that began as protests in the early spring of 2011 as part of the Arab Spring. Instead of paying heed to his people, President Bashar al-Assad unleashed his military forces in violent crackdowns that forced 3.2 million people to flee the country and internally displaced 6.5 million others. Alan was just the latest victim.

Hadi Elis, spokesman for the Kurdish Community Centre of Toronto, told me he was shocked how Trudeau and an NDP MP from B.C. used Alan’s tragic death to attack Alexander.

“Minister Alexander has been one of the strongest allies of the Kurdish community and stood by the Syrian Kurds in their darkest hour in Kobani from where the boy and his family fled in the face of attacks on them by Islamist ISIS and their Turkish allies,” Elis wrote in an e-mail.

“It is despicable for Liberal and NDP politicians to use the dead boy as a political tool to score partisan political points. Shame on them. They want Canada to stop attacking ISIS, and then shed crocodile tears when a victim of ISIS drowns on a Turkish beach,” he continued.

“If there is anyone who is guilty of this crime, it is Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UN, all those who have refused to embrace hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing war, not Minister Chris Alexander who needs no lectures on compassion by politicians who are catering to the Islamists inside Canada.”

Neither the NDP nor the Liberals dare say a single word against Turkey, Saudi Arabia or even Pakistan for fear of losing the imagined Muslim vote in Canada’s large riding-rich cities. Instead, by depicting the Conservatives and Alexander as anti-refugee and anti-Muslim, they hope to harvest a supposed rich crop of pro-Islamist voters.

It’s possible they might even succeed in this venture given the way many mainstream media outlets have formed a lynch mob targeting the Conservatives with disdain and shameless partisanship.

Canadian voters, on the other hand, must recognize the stories they’re reading or watching also reflect an illiteracy and ignorance among Canada’s chattering heads on matters of the Middle East and South Asia — ignorance they cover up by ensuring no one with a background in the area is given the opportunity to challenge what wrongly passes for objective and balanced discourse.

The fact is all these refugees fleeing war zones in the Arab World could very easily be accommodated in Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

Instead, while Turkey wants to dump them in the sea and hope bleeding-heart, guilt-ridden liberal Europeans embrace them and pay for their resettlement, the Saudis have an even simpler solution: Shut down the border and seal it so not a single Alan Kurdi dare walk across from Iraq or the new “Islamic State of Iraq and Syria” into its territory. Period.

Strictly from a management perspective and common sense, Saudi Arabia has the land, the resources and lies in the vicinity of the crisis. The refugees and the Saudis speak the same language and settlement and integration could happen sooner and at a fraction of the cost.

But it’s far easier to call for the head of Chris Alexander than to be honest and admit the villain in the drama is Saudi Arabia and criticising the Saudis might upset the Islamist vote bank both the Liberals and the NDP covet.

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/09/03/wh ... alan-kurdi

[N_Fiddledog]

But me, I find myself more and more relying on the blogs.

Here's what my favorite blogger has to say about the Aylan Kurdi story.

$1:

Between the CBC and Justin it’s hard to pick the the greater bag of shit on this issue.

The CEEB has essentially been in Blame it on Harper mode since this story broke, and Justin needs a kick a kick in the ass.

[BRAH]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BRAH BRAH:

Strutz Strutz:

If there hadn't been a photographer at that spot at that time this picture wouldn't even exist. The news story, if there was one, would have been that yet another boat sank while trying to reach European shores and lives were lost. So many have died while trying to escape this region, including children, but their names and stories will never be known to the world. They would just be part of the ever-increasing numbers.

Oh yeah, the media is hyping this up alright and focusing on it while emotions are still running high. "We must do more" was repeated so many times in just a few minutes on the news tonight. What we must do was never specified just that "we" need to do it.

Don't get me wrong, it's awful that these two little ones had to die in such a terrible way. Human suffering and children dying far too young is happening in a lot of places all over the world right now and has been for a long time. You just don't hear their names or see pictures of their innocent faces.

Elements from the Left who suffer from HDS (No CKA members) and the Canadian Media are trying to blame Harper for this and it's going to blow up in their face.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Liberals are always against war unless they're the ones starting it.

Just like they were regarding the mission in Afghanistan, soon as they were no longer in power they were against it.

Then there's the CPS (Conservative Paranoia Syndrome). When they see facts they don't like they balme the "biased MSM" (despite the fact that virtually every newspaper in Canada backed the Conservatives in the last two elections).

Temperature warming up? VBlame the scientists.

The funny thing is that, despite alll the rhetoric about conservatism being about personal accountability, they are the biggest victim-whiners on the planet.

It's the Canadian Media and the Left using this childs death as a political football not the Right.

[Zipperfish]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

In the last two elections all four major dailies in Vancouver have backed teh Conservatives. If the mainstream media were indeed biased to the left, this would not have happened.

Sure it would have. Media owners want to make money.

As to content bias, some like the Vancouver Province are what's called "Middle Market", which Wikipedia describes as " one that attempts to cater to readers who want some entertainment from their newspaper as well as the coverage of important news events." I'd put CTV in that category as well.

Vancouver Sun leans left.

The Globe and Mail - left.

National Post (since they've switched ownership) - left - big fans of Mulcair

Toronto (Red) Star - left.

CBC - left.

Global - left.

Again--fact-resistant. Your evidence to date is that these papers are left because you say they are left. On the other side, I proided evidence that all four vancouver dailies have endorsed the Conservatives--the most right-wing party--in the last two elections.

Your argument doesn't add up.

[QBall]

Is it me or does Mulcair have some sort thing for using corpses during his campaigns? First it was Layton's during the last campaign, now this little boy's during this campaign. NDP = Newly Dead Party?

[Zipperfish]

QBall QBall:

Is it me or does Mulcair have some sort thing for using corpses during his campaigns? First it was Layton's during the last campaign, now this little boy's during this campaign. NDP = Newly Dead Party?

Mulcair? What did he do? I thought he probably had the most accurate statement, saying the photo would "define an era." He also said it was "tooe asy to start assigning blame."

Sounds to me like you're the one using a corpse to further your point.

[BRAH]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

QBall QBall:

Is it me or does Mulcair have some sort thing for using corpses during his campaigns? First it was Layton's during the last campaign, now this little boy's during this campaign. NDP = Newly Dead Party?

Mulcair? What did he do? I thought he probably had the most accurate statement, saying the photo would "define an era." He also said it was "tooe asy to start assigning blame."

Sounds to me like you're the one using a corpse to further your point.

Where was Mulcair's grandstanding when hundreds, thousands of images of dead Syrian children killed in the Civil War were shown? Now he cares using the death of this child as a political football against Harper, it's ghoulish!

[Zipperfish]

How did he do that? He also said it was "too easy to assign blame." Hardly seems like political posturing to me.

[herbie]

FFS give it up. These guys think the National Post is left biased and Justin Trudeau is a leftist. Haven't even caught on to your previous post.
General Franco was left to them!