[Jabberwalker]

If you're self-satisfied little wankers, there would be need to defend the actions of our ancestors.

I suppose you would hold me responsible for African slavery because I happen to be white?

[ShepherdsDog]

Keep in mind Jabber that this waste of skin has proudly declared itself a National Socialist.

[Jabberwalker]

Has he met the Marxist working over in the other convenience store?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Xort Xort:

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

They needn't live up to what spoiled little wankers, (who were never in any danger of anything), passing judgement four generations later . You were not there. The BBC types who did the piece weren't either. How dare you or they impose your morality on those events after removing them totally from their context of a national emergency. You are a nothing but a busybody alien from the future for Harris and his command.

If the act was valid no one would need defend it. That's how you know it was wrong.

How was the attack on Dresden not valid?

[Thanos]

The true revisionist can be known when it comes into a discussion of Dresden and repeats the neo-Nazi claim that the Allies just didn't bomb the city but that they also sent in fighter planes afterwards to deliberately strafe the civilians in the parks, streets, and other open places. I've seen this tactic used many times before over the years but it usually come from the same type of clown who says that the only Jews that died in the war were killed by typhus and not by mass shootings or gassings.

[Zipperfish]

I always thought that Dresden was more or less a deliberate slaughter as revenge for the attack on Coventry.

[ShepherdsDog]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

Has he met the Marxist working over in the other convenience store?

It was actually the Marxist that posted the links to his shit.

[Thanos]

Coventry was in 1940. Dresden, if it was a revenge raid, was more of a response to the more recent V1 and V2 attacks on London that had been going on throughout the last half of 1944 until the ground forces overran the launching sites.

[Xort]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

If you're self-satisfied little wankers, there would be need to defend the actions of our ancestors.

I'm not sure what you are tying to say here.

$1:

I suppose you would hold me responsible for African slavery because I happen to be white?

I have no clue what that has to do with anything, but no I do not. I don't blame people for actions that predate their birth.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

How was the attack on Dresden not valid?

I can not say. I couldn't know because I wasn't there and I've never been in any danger of anything and I'm a wanker and a I'm a time traveling busybody alien, I'm just a child from this century and those were men from the century I was born in and lived most my life in.

Or something.

I'm sure Jabberwalker can explain all the reasons why I can't approve or disapprove of any action I wasn't directly active in. At least if it was the UK doing it because clearly every action taken by the Germans, Japanese, Russians, Austrians, Chinese and so on is up for modern judgement.

[Jabberwalker]

Thanos Thanos:

The true revisionist can be known when it comes into a discussion of Dresden and repeats the neo-Nazi claim that the Allies just didn't bomb the city but that they also sent in fighter planes afterwards to deliberately strafe the civilians in the parks, streets, and other open places. I've seen this tactic used many times before over the years but it usually come from the same type of clown who says that the only Jews that died in the war were killed by typhus and not by mass shootings or gassings.

I used to share an office with a Prussian Berliner who went on and on about how the British were the real agressors, starting both world wars. Whenever I would point out that, in both cases, the British army was puny and totally unprepared at the beginning of both of them, well that was just proof of their incompetence and inadequacy (a somewhat half-true idea). Anyway, he died of a dental abcess. His father had been a Colonel in the S.S. (!!) Who never returned from the East. During my office mate's funeral, there as some weird, German side ceremonial shit going on that the Lutheran minister made mention of but obviously did not approve of. It was reminiscent of a little side bit that the Freemasons did at my grandfather's funeral. It was a bit creepy and pretty obviously Nazi.

BTW, I am currently engaged in fixing and re-engineering all of the many flaws in his designs. Deutschland is not always uber allies. They just con you into thinking that they are. That Kraut accent, like the British one telds to hoodwink North Americans every time.

[Thanos]

I worked with an older guy once whose family had been chased out of East Prussia when the Soviets ethnically cleansed the entire area in 45/46. He was still griping about it all those years later. I didn't bother to say much about it and just left him alone. I couldn't figure out why he didn't understand that no Canadians really gave too much of a shit about what happened to Germans after WW2 was over. A couple of million of them allegedly died during the expulsions but the alternative would have been much worse if Stalin had decided instead to merely shoot all of them.

I have nothing against contemporary Germans at all. They're no different from anyone else nowadays and as a group they haven't shied away from taking responsibility for what their WW2 generation did. But it's not all that possible to have much sympathy for anything that happened to them during the war or after the war concluded. Nothing that happened to Germany as a result of Versailles could ever justify the way they were behaving towards civilian populations from 39 to 45. War's all about precedent. Don't act like a maniac during a war and the chances that you'll be brutalized yourself by an enraged enemy drops dramatically.

[Regina]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I always thought that Dresden was more or less a deliberate slaughter as revenge for the attack on Coventry.

Nope it was just next on the list and if I remember correctly, it would have been bombed sooner if not for weather

[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

Coventry was in 1940. Dresden, if it was a revenge raid, was more of a response to the more recent V1 and V2 attacks on London that had been going on throughout the last half of 1944 until the ground forces overran the launching sites.

Shows how much I know. ha ha ha

[MeganC]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

Movies glorifying (the war) shouldn't have been made, either.

Why not? If the war was worth fighting then why not say so and remember the people who fought it? Why be ashamed of it like you think we should be? The way I read your posts it looks like you think the wrong people won the war!

[Jabberwalker]

Really? You sure you're no confusing me with Andy?

Read my posts again, please. I simply object to the John Wayne baloney. Hollywood's "history" is 99% bullshit.