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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:06 am
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Can we just agree that ALL religious fundamentalists are a bunch of friggin' retards? Anyone who takes pleasure in the death of a person who brought so much laughter to the world is a sick bastard that doesn't deserve to have their garbage repeated. Concur.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:08 am
There is a place and a time for bringing up religious retards and this isn't the time or place. Once again, sorry for stooping to barts level.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:08 pm
Yea. That changes things for me. I thought it was his depression that drove him to suicide. The thought of what was to come with Parkinson's being the motivation, I complete understand his decision to take his own life.  I don't like it, but I think everyone should have the right to that option.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:36 pm
Some disgusting fallout from this; $1: Zelda Williams abandoned her Twitter and Instagram accounts Tuesday after saying at least two people were sending her Photoshopped images of her father's dead body and other disturbing messages -- some blaming her for father's death. "I'm sorry. I should've risen above," she wrote in her final tweet. "Deleting this from my devices for a good long time, maybe forever. Time will tell. Goodbye." The episode proves that, with the anonymity of the Internet, some people will be horrible no matter the situation. http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/13/tech/soci ... s-twitter/
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:51 pm
And some "people" don't even require anonymity to be the absolutely worst, most cruel, most ignorant, most vicious, and most miserable person they can possibly be. They're openly proud of being rotten because in a twisted society being rotten has made them insanely influential and wealthy. WARNING: link leads to a story about someone who is literally the human equivalent of a broken raw sewage pipe. 
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:01 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: Some disgusting fallout from this; $1: Zelda Williams abandoned her Twitter and Instagram accounts Tuesday after saying at least two people were sending her Photoshopped images of her father's dead body and other disturbing messages -- some blaming her for father's death. "I'm sorry. I should've risen above," she wrote in her final tweet. "Deleting this from my devices for a good long time, maybe forever. Time will tell. Goodbye." The episode proves that, with the anonymity of the Internet, some people will be horrible no matter the situation. http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/13/tech/soci ... s-twitter/There are no words. 
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:08 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb: Yea. That changes things for me. I thought it was his depression that drove him to suicide. The thought of what was to come with Parkinson's being the motivation, I complete understand his decision to take his own life.  I don't like it, but I think everyone should have the right to that option. The early stages of parkinson's obviously added to his depression, some have said Michael J Fox didn't committ suicide when he found out how do we know he didn't try? He also didn't have a long history of depression like Robin Williams did. My ex survived 2 bouts of Cancer and now has MS and she had her dark moments. We also have to think of the loss he personally suffered when Christopher Reeves and Dana Reeves passed away which probably hanuted him till his last days.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:22 pm
Lots of wing nuts. Everyones fav the Westboro Baptist plan their usual shitfest.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:55 pm
Goober911 Goober911: Lots of wing nuts. Everyones fav the Westboro Baptist plan their usual shitfest. Who wants to come with me to sabotage them? All I want to do is cruise the local motels and torch demolish slash the tires block in every vehicle with a Kansas license plate! 
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:04 pm
The saddest part is how low he must have been at that moment, can't even imagine. If more people talked about issues like depression, suicide and metal disorders it wouldn't be swept under the rug. Yeah we're talking about it now after Robin Williams but to be honest the same thing happened after multiple shootings where mental disorders was talked about it and swept under the rug because gun control became the bigger issue, maybe this time it will be different.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:21 am
BRAH BRAH: The saddest part is how low he must have been at that moment, can't even imagine. If more people talked about issues like depression, suicide and metal disorders it wouldn't be swept under the rug. Yeah we're talking about it now after Robin Williams but to be honest the same thing happened after multiple shootings where mental disorders was talked about it and swept under the rug because gun control became the bigger issue, maybe this time it will be different. I actually think those two issues go hand in hand. If we want a reduction in gun violence, the quickest way isn't to ban guns, it's to fund and treat mental illness. Like we used to do, instead of drugging them, putting them in a straight jacket tied to a gurney in a segregated section of a prison. 
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:43 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: BRAH BRAH: The saddest part is how low he must have been at that moment, can't even imagine. If more people talked about issues like depression, suicide and metal disorders it wouldn't be swept under the rug. Yeah we're talking about it now after Robin Williams but to be honest the same thing happened after multiple shootings where mental disorders was talked about it and swept under the rug because gun control became the bigger issue, maybe this time it will be different. I actually think those two issues go hand in hand. If we want a reduction in gun violence, the quickest way isn't to ban guns, it's to fund and treat mental illness. Like we used to do, instead of drugging them, putting them in a straight jacket tied to a gurney in a segregated section of a prison.  The thing when a mass shooting takes place and the suspect possibly has a mental illness that gets swept under the rug by politicans for gun control because mental illness is treated like a ginger step child you know it's there and that's it. 13 first responders, 13 suicides, 10 weeks http://globalnews.ca/news/1457826/13-first-responders-13-suicides-10-weeks/____ PTSD is a mental illness, recently emergency responders have been committing suicide at an alarming rate. 
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:58 am
Treating mental illness won't reduce gun violence much, unless you want to call gangsters and criminals mentally ill. And we certainly don't have a medical cure for that particular illness. Treating mental illness might prevent some of the mass shootings, except that most of the shooters would not be in confined treatment before they act out - they hadn't sent enough warning signals what they were about to do. So we'd have to get rid of our ideas of personal freedom, and just preemptively lock up people who look or act weird. We'd lock up many people who would never go on to be violent, while missing many who just didn't stand out.
Of course mental illness is a big factor in mass shootings. Of course we should be spending a lot more money on mental health treatment - that would also go a long way towards dealing with the homeless and addiction problems. But as for overall reduction in gun violence, not so much.
And we now talk about mental illness quite a bit. People are riding bikes, speaking out, what have you. What we don't do is invest near enough money in treatment. OTOH, Robin Williams could afford any treatment, and was getting it. The other factor is that we're not very good at treating mental illness. Much more complicated than brain surgery or what have you. Hell, just defining it is a mugs game. And, ultimately, peoples lives are their own, they can take it if that's what they choose to do.
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